carelessness up af canyon

[jackjoh]

As an update and read Don Blacks comments above. A follow up meeting was held with the BLM Oct. 3rd. Ret would you post a brief of that meeting here?

 

[JL Rockies]

As Public Relations Director for the U4 I'm assuming this is the official stance? Everything is fine and dandy with U4, your just hearing from complainers and those with hurt feelings.

You can bill it off as hurt feelings and Jack can bill it off as complaining, I would probably try to dress up the situation if my name were on the paperwork too . Did my complaining stop U4 from even sending out an f-ing email for NPLD? Did Steve's hurt feelings keep U4 from commenting on the latest travel management plans? We both know the answer is no, U4 is dropping the ball and nobody is inspired in the least bit to board a sinking ship. Focus the existing manpower on meaningful projects and fulfill existing obligations and others will. U4 does not lack the manpower to get the ball rolling, it lacks the focus and direction, simple as that. This is absolutely no different than the U4WDA I became involved with in 2002, fixable, yes... broken due to bad feelings, no

I have been a U4 member since 2007. I've attended evey BoD meeting since Jan 2009 and I chose to get on the court and become a BoD member in June. My official stance on the drama that happened before I got here means nothing to me personally or as a BoD member. Posts on here go beyond civil discourse and move deep into the realm of personalities. There is only the truth and stories about the truth.... and stories are always BS because they're personal. I'm not a "stories" guy.

But I consider you a friend and the unwritten rule of friendship is: I'll buy your BS if you'll buy mine.

 

[scoutabout]

Nobody's buying your BS.

Lol, it's always someone else's fault that you can't do anything.

 

[scoutabout]

There is only the truth and stories about the truth.... and stories are always BS because they're personal. I'm not a "stories" guy.

Why don't you point out what isn't true? Waiting.

It's funny that you think you can claim to know anything about something that happened years before you were ever involved. But somehow, you know more than the people who were involved? Interesting.

 

[cruiseroutfit]

...But I consider you a friend and the unwritten rule of friendship is: I'll buy your BS if you'll buy mine.

Fair enough

 

[Kiel]

I have been a U4 member since 2007. I've attended evey BoD meeting since Jan 2009 and I chose to get on the court and become a BoD member in June. My official stance on the drama that happened before I got here means nothing to me personally or as a BoD member. Posts on here go beyond civil discourse and move deep into the realm of personalities. There is only the truth and stories about the truth.... and stories are always BS because they're personal. I'm not a "stories" guy.

But I consider you a friend and the unwritten rule of friendship is: I'll buy your BS if you'll buy mine.

Ah if only you knew the way it went down and were there. Good times

 

[Don B]

Yes, they were good times. I look back on the glory days when the wave of RMP's in 2008 had a certain Mr.Williams as a driving force that actually made U4 a serious player in the outcome of those RMP's. I remember when U4's numbers and influence were rapidly expanding under Mr. Jackson's influence.

Thanks guy's. I hope that some of the people stepping up now can continue the good work.

 

[DewYota]

I'm no longer a member of U4 because my subscription has expired. Although, I still do my part and pick up trash when I see it. Some may see this wrong, but I don't drink alcohol, and have thrown away half a 30pk left at a camp site, and picked up the other 15 cans left around the fire. That was a sad sight to see, and I hope I never see that type of ignorance again.

I search now, and assume the next guy isn't going to stop to pick something up, so its my responsibility to pick up what I find.

Seems like its always a better trail ride when I know I helped clean the trail a little.