Cities vs Urban vs Rural and other culture chat (Mental health - Spin off thread)

TRD270

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Same same, go to bed exhausted only to wake up at 1-3am with a racing brain. Been worse since Decembers events. Haven’t found a fix yet. Usually exacerbated if I have an early show for work, only to finally fall asleep again 10-15 before my alarm.

Planning lots of desert runs, even just day trips to clear the brain and calm down. Found the problem with that though, is soon as I get back in the city all the assholes on the road get me all wound up again.
 

jeeper

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So Jo, Ut
Found the problem with that though, is soon as I get back in the city all the assholes on the road get me all wound up again.

This is a real thing for me also. I can be so happy and calm at our property, and the closer to people and traffic we get on the way home, the more the anger and stress comes back. It's almost worse than not going in the first place because I can feel the difference. Maybe staying stressed would be easier.
 

Corban_White

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Payson, AZ
This is a real thing for me also. I can be so happy and calm at our property, and the closer to people and traffic we get on the way home, the more the anger and stress comes back. It's almost worse than not going in the first place because I can feel the difference. Maybe staying stressed would be easier.
I used to feel like this a lot every time I left the area and then came back. Then I moved out of the city. I still feel like that when I am back in the city but that only happens for a few hours a month or so now. Mental health is so much better. It took some (lots actually) of sacrifices to get it done, but it was SO worth it.
 

Herzog

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I used to feel like this a lot every time I left the area and then came back. Then I moved out of the city. I still feel like that when I am back in the city but that only happens for a few hours a month or so now. Mental health is so much better. It took some (lots actually) of sacrifices to get it done, but it was SO worth it.
100%, same. My shoulders are no longer constantly locked up and I'm no longer grinding my front teeth down
 

jeeper

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So Jo, Ut
I used to feel like this a lot every time I left the area and then came back. Then I moved out of the city. I still feel like that when I am back in the city but that only happens for a few hours a month or so now. Mental health is so much better. It took some (lots actually) of sacrifices to get it done, but it was SO worth it.

I tried real hard last fall to move my family closer to the swell. I found what I thought would be the perfect area to build a new home and have all the space we needed, but also still be included with neighbors and some socialization.

When it came time to put up or shut up, my wife informed me that I would be moving alone, with half my assets.

We settled on the recreation property that we bought. I do see us spending significant time there as the children get older, and our free time gets better.
 

Thursty

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I left the Wasatch Front because I got tired of all the people moving in and taking over “my” recreation areas. This was well before I started to feel any real stress in my life. I don’t even want to think what my stress level would be like now if I still lived there. Going back to visit family every so often is all I want to handle. I’m glad I have a wife who loves small town life as much as I do.
 

Greg

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I left the Wasatch Front because I got tired of all the people moving in and taking over “my” recreation areas. This was well before I started to feel any real stress in my life. I don’t even want to think what my stress level would be like now if I still lived there. Going back to visit family every so often is all I want to handle. I’m glad I have a wife who loves small town life as much as I do.

That's funny.... my wife hates driving with me in UT & SLC county freeway traffic. I become an aggressive a-hole dealing with the idiots on the freeways. I didn't realize it until she said something. Life in GJ is good....
 

Kevin B.

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I can’t imagine anyone keeping their sanity in the SLC area.
The people that can put up with the traffic and the crowding and the air in this city are on autopilot, I think. I'm with Brian, I have such a hard time coming back into town after a trip.

That's part of what I like about places like Ray's. A burger or whatever right after I come off the dirt helps ground me, helps me transition back into the suck.
 

Thursty

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That's funny.... my wife hates driving with me in UT & SLC county freeway traffic. I become an aggressive a-hole dealing with the idiots on the freeways. I didn't realize it until she said something. Life in GJ is good....
I’d rather drive in GJ than Ut Valley too. I call the windmills at the mouth of SF Canyon the Gates of Hell. Whenever I see them I want to turn around and head for home.
 

cruiseroutfit

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The people that can put up with the traffic and the crowding and the air in this city are on autopilot, I think...

I dunno about that. I love remote places and I've worked to seek them out both in Utah and afar whenever possible from an experience and geographic perspective, northernmost road, eastern most city, etc. I'm fortunate to get to work in the outdoors or on the road somewhat often and I envision my life continuing to morph where I do even more of that in the coming years. But, I also love downtown SLC, downtown NYC, Buenos Aires, Mexico City, etc. I like being behind the wheel and even more so afoot in those big cities. There is an absolute energy to the hustle, street food, businesses that are open late or all night, people speaking different languages at a bar, culture.

My commute is short, centralish Sandy to south Murray, but I do find myself about town 4-5 days a week. Traffic is certainly worse than ever but it's not really enough to quite cause me to move away from the many conveniences that same traffic affords. Great places to dine/drink, shows, concerts and a big one for my wife and I, ability to leave our house about 90 minutes before a flight. I get together with buddies a day or two a week for lunch and a night or two a week for dinner. Naturally all things that could be overcome in a small town with planning and I forsee myself doing that in the future but not out of anxiety or dismay, rather opportunity. I don't know if it will be Helper, East Carbon, Hanksville, Ticaboo, or hell Gold Hill but at some point I'll spend more time 'in the country' but I don't envision us ever wanting to be further from the city. If I could have the same size house and more importantly property I have now, I'd love to be closer to SLC in fact.
 
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N-Smooth

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I can stand living in the valley because I work from home and I have a big field next to my house. That pretty much sums it up for me. We’ve discussed small-town living and agreed it’s not always easy on kids and isn’t ideal for us.

I also spend most of my time in the suburbs, venturing into downtown SLC as little as possible- ideally less than quarterly.
 

Cody

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I'm definitely of a similar viewpoint as Kurt. Love the convenience of being in a city. I love being close to downtown where there is a diversity of people, culture, food, activities, etc I miss living in downtown proper where I never needed to drive anywhere on days off.

Whenever I'm visiting family in Herriman or Saratoga springs it almost makes me feel uncomfortable. All strip malls full of shitty chain restaurants (or possibly some locally owned places done up to feel like a chain restaurant, soon to be put out of business due to lack of support from a community with no sense of pride in itself, and replaced by a chain restaurant). All the houses look the same and have zero character, all the people look the same. Urban planning is nonexistent so traffic is miserable. It's a cultural black hole and it feels like the twilight zone ha ha.
 

jeeper

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So Jo, Ut
Whenever I'm visiting family in Herriman or Saratoga springs it almost makes me feel uncomfortable. All strip malls full of shitty chain restaurants (or possibly some locally owned places done up to feel like a chain restaurant, soon to be put out of business due to lack of support from a community with no sense of pride in itself, and replaced by a chain restaurant). All the houses look the same and have zero character, all the people look the same. Urban planning is nonexistent so traffic is miserable. It's a cultural black hole and it feels like the twilight zone ha ha.

Ha. When I am in SugarHood or the Avenues I am blown away that people will live in such a dense area. 1 car driveway if you are lucky, tiny streets so you can't pass an oncoming car, traffic is horrible, tiny 1500 sq ft homes that cost the same as 5,000 sf homes on an acre in bluffdale..
Different strokes. And totally ok to be that way, it makes the world go round.
 

N-Smooth

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Yeah I’m guilty of saying “damn I wish I had a tiny, 100-year-old house with no garage and street parking only” all the time. It’s like a broken record.

Ha. When I am in SugarHood or the Avenues I am blown away that people will live in such a dense area. 1 car driveway if you are lucky, tiny streets so you can't pass an oncoming car, traffic is horrible, tiny 1500 sq ft homes that cost the same as 5,000 sf homes on an acre in bluffdale..
Different strokes. And totally ok to be that way, it makes the world go round.
This^^
I really am glad people are living the life they want to live but it’s not for me any more than my life is for them. Diversity isn’t the only source of culture either. My neighborhood has its own culture and I thoroughly enjoy it.
 

Cody

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2100 s and Highland in sugarhouse are absolutely a disaster right now, and a near disaster even without construction. Any construction on older streets is brutal. At least there are other streets to use. Out west it's one way in and one way out.

Big houses are fine, I for sure wish I had an extra 1000 square feet (my house is like 850). I wish I had a bigger garage and driveway too. But I'd be so bummed if I had to furnish, clean, and maintain a 5k square foot house. And on top, maintain an acre of yard? No thanks. Everyone has their priorities.

Lots of neighborhoods have a good vibe and "culture". My mom's street where I grow up is real tight knit, and full of amazing and supportive/helpful people. No diversity, but a great hood once the riff raff moved away (that's me). I like that just on my street, at least 5 languages are spoken. I have the gaybors that watch our dog, a world renowned classical musician that teaches at the U, a husband/wife from Taiwan that are both doctors, a family from Mexico city that sells me the best tamales (from the cooler in their minivan), a whiskey blogger, a motorcycle mechanic, a handyman, and the guy across the street that just died was literally born in that house, and had lived there 84 years. Oh, and the ice cream truck comes year round. Is that normal for everywhere?

I'd love to live in a smaller mountain town, but as has been mentioned, small towns are a little tougher on kids (in some ways, way awesome in others). Hopefully I'll find a cool spot tonight retire in 40 years when I. I'm too decrepit add value at work any more. Maybe I'll run for president.
 

Cody

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Like what? A catholic family in the ward boundaries and a few neighbors that served missions in Toronto? :D
Ha ha, no homie. One house likes tcby and one prefers Nielsens.


Diversity doesn't make culture. Diversity of culture is what I appreciate. I mean, how awesome is it that on the next street down on Halloween there was a house giving out homemade donuts three doors away from the house literally roasting a pig on a spit over an open fire in the front yard (and it was delicious!).
 

N-Smooth

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Like what? A catholic family in the ward boundaries and a few neighbors that served missions in Toronto? :D

I’ve never thought about it until now because it feels pretty virtue-signally but of the 17 houses in my neighborhood 10 of them are white families and 7 are non-white (Vietnamese, Filipino, Chinese and Hispanic).

We’re really close with 4 of them but I’ll stop and talk to a couple others for 2 hours at a time when I see them. A few others are the we don’t want to be bothered type that pull in the garage and close it before getting out of their cars and that’s fine too.

Oh and 7 of them are members of the same church as me.
 
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