Maverick
old-school
- Location
- Anywhere, thanks to my geeky droid
We went on a "last chance" trail ride just before it was closed, sometime in '02. Pretty cool!
Closed Trails Database
- Thread starter cruiseroutfit
- Start date
This is one I would definatly like to see re-opened. I am friends with a someone who is a grandson of June Marsing. They have heritage access to the area by permit and he has been trying to get a permit granted for a couple of years so we could ride motorcycles down. We don't anticipate that happening to soon
Me too. Drove that trail for the first and last time about 15 days before it "closed".
It's a beautiful trail & area.road below cascade springs. Trail head was west of deer creek dam in provo canyon. And somehow the tree for the provo rope swing was cut down as well, MFSOB's. Still pisses me off to this day I effin loved that rope swing and the cascade springs road. Closed sometime between 02-04
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Samuraiman
Sand Pile
- Location
- St George Utah
Ponderosa Grove Campground - BLM
Located on Hancock Rd. between Hwy 89 and Yellow Jacket Rd. OHV access is no longer allowed from this campground. No ATVs allowed on Hancock Rd. Access to the dunes is prohibited by an emergency closure along the south edge of the Hancock Road.
Why is the Coral Pink Dunes still a WSA?
Located on Hancock Rd. between Hwy 89 and Yellow Jacket Rd. OHV access is no longer allowed from this campground. No ATVs allowed on Hancock Rd. Access to the dunes is prohibited by an emergency closure along the south edge of the Hancock Road.
Why is the Coral Pink Dunes still a WSA?
Don B
formerly rebarguy
- Location
- Southern Utah
Here's what I've come up with on trails closed by the BLM Kanab RMP.
Poverty Flat, last 1/2 mile spur to the river; Parunaweap WSA
East Side Rock Canyon, road now ends at beginning of WSA, loop route from this road
and many spur routes not shown on BLM maps. I know there are at least two roads in that area claimed as county roads. Parunaweap WSA
Harris Mountain, loop off the north side trail closed as well as a spur between Merwin and Joseph canyons. Parunaweap WSA
Thompson Point, Vermillion cliffs northeast of Kanab. BLM
Willis Canyon, east of Kanab, BLM, crosses private property
Lambs Point spur, Moquith Mt. WSA, crosses into Az. and Paiute Reservation before continuing thru Utah BLM.
As I was looking at maps I did note that the BLM map I have shows the BLM portion of the Coral Pink Dunes as part of the Moquith Mtn. WSA even though the BLM has an 1100 acre open OHV area there. (Only open area left in the Kanab BLM FO area) Interesting.
Poverty Flat, last 1/2 mile spur to the river; Parunaweap WSA
East Side Rock Canyon, road now ends at beginning of WSA, loop route from this road
and many spur routes not shown on BLM maps. I know there are at least two roads in that area claimed as county roads. Parunaweap WSA
Harris Mountain, loop off the north side trail closed as well as a spur between Merwin and Joseph canyons. Parunaweap WSA
Thompson Point, Vermillion cliffs northeast of Kanab. BLM
Willis Canyon, east of Kanab, BLM, crosses private property
Lambs Point spur, Moquith Mt. WSA, crosses into Az. and Paiute Reservation before continuing thru Utah BLM.
As I was looking at maps I did note that the BLM map I have shows the BLM portion of the Coral Pink Dunes as part of the Moquith Mtn. WSA even though the BLM has an 1100 acre open OHV area there. (Only open area left in the Kanab BLM FO area) Interesting.
PolarXJ
HO-P
There was a Lower Diff Hanger as well.
- Location
- Riverton, UT
Kurt, do you have a compilation to send to me? Be sure and list the miles for each trail.
It was closed do to water quality issues, They said the houses that are up there get there water about a hundred feet down stream from where we crossed it. I always called it little deer creek trail
JKS
A.K.A Sam
- Location
- Price Utah
I'm probably a day late and a dollar short on this but these should be added to the list for the Price area (Carbon County),
Lower Diff Hanger
Upper Diff Hanger
Gremlin
Right Fork of Judgment Day
Lower Judgment Day
The Long Way
The Squeeze
The Big Wash
Twister
Copper Head
Tombstone
Mountain Dew (Not 100% sure about this one, could still be open)
I do have most of the above trails mapped on Google, if that will help in anyway. All were considered open before the latest RMP. Many (not all) were submitted to the BLM and the data was "lost".
anderson750
I'm working on it Rose
- Location
- Price, Utah
I'm probably a day late and a dollar short on this but these should be added to the list for the Price area (Carbon County),
Lower Diff Hanger
Upper Diff Hanger
Gremlin
Right Fork of Judgment Day
Lower Judgment Day
The Long Way
The Squeeze
The Big Wash
Twister
Copper Head
Tombstone
Mountain Dew (Not 100% sure about this one, could still be open)
I do have most of the above trails mapped on Google, if that will help in anyway. All were considered open before the latest RMP. Many (not all) were submitted to the BLM and the data was "lost".
The portion of the Mt. Dew trail that is in Emery County and part of the San Rafael travel plan is open. The portion in Carbon County was left out of the RMP. If I remember right, the excuse that Tom Genojek gave was that they did not include it because as far as the RMP went, it looked like a dead end on the map.
Nevermind what it looked like on the ground or the fact that the continuation was already open through the other travel plan that was being included into the RMP.
scoutabout
None
Where is this? There is a road starting at the Deer Creek dam that goes to Cascade Springs. There was a sign on the Cascade Springs side that said "road ends xx miles ahead", but it's always been open.
- Location
- Riverton, UT
Is this complete? I told the BLM that we would send it in November.
- Location
- Sandy, Ut
Work in progress, I've got all the submission so far on my master list, many didn't list BLM or FS so I've just got them as a blank. As I get time I'm digging into the details of them.
Don B
formerly rebarguy
- Location
- Southern Utah
Never complete.
No telling how many Forest Service roads have been closed. Boulder Mountain comes to mind where they closed all but the main road several years back, not to mention Dixie NF's latest travel management plan.
The GSENM could be a chapter in itself. Many of the roads there, while not physically marked as closed are not on the Monuments management plan and will be closed in the future. Paria Canyon was just the beginning. There are a little known roads that are just disappearing from lack of use.
- Location
- Riverton, UT
Thanks to everyone for this help. And Don I agree and we have Hatch on our side on this. Will try to send the document published by Rep. Bishop.
http://barrasso.senate.gov/public/_files/War_on_Western_Jobs_Report_Final.pdf
http://barrasso.senate.gov/public/_files/War_on_Western_Jobs_Report_Final.pdf
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Kurt, I've got some for starters that might not be physically closed yet but will be by a WSA proposal, and like elswhere probably just a snapshot of the bigger picture in these areas too.
South East: (San Juan County) BLM, WSA_(& previously closed at GCNRA)
Johns Canyon Overlook Road, perfectly good backcountry road to a perfectly good overlook on the north rim about mid canyon, they are probably closing it at the slickrock part past the graded section?
Johns Canyon Road, or more of it anyway. To be closed at or near where it reaches the wash in Johns Canyon above the pouroff, so the route upcanyon will be closed including routes that exsist on both sides of the wash but at a bit of distance from each other, Also the rest of it that wraps around the canyon the other way on the benches continuing on to the Glen Canyon NRA boundry where it was closed previously (used to continue on for a while beyond Johns canyon and the GCNRA boundry too).
Both these are documented in Massey and Wilson's backcountry adventures
Want photos?
(massey/wilson trail #41) Johns canyon overlook, some history left behind
view from the overlook, showing a part of the road in Johns Canyon below that will be in WSA (massey/wilson #42)
from just before the end of the overlook on our way out
showing condition of the overlook road beyond the slickrock section
slickrock section and stock pond/dam.
Turn around point at the up canyon end of Johns Canyon road.
South East: (San Juan County) BLM, WSA_(& previously closed at GCNRA)
Johns Canyon Overlook Road, perfectly good backcountry road to a perfectly good overlook on the north rim about mid canyon, they are probably closing it at the slickrock part past the graded section?
Johns Canyon Road, or more of it anyway. To be closed at or near where it reaches the wash in Johns Canyon above the pouroff, so the route upcanyon will be closed including routes that exsist on both sides of the wash but at a bit of distance from each other, Also the rest of it that wraps around the canyon the other way on the benches continuing on to the Glen Canyon NRA boundry where it was closed previously (used to continue on for a while beyond Johns canyon and the GCNRA boundry too).
Both these are documented in Massey and Wilson's backcountry adventures
Want photos?
(massey/wilson trail #41) Johns canyon overlook, some history left behind
view from the overlook, showing a part of the road in Johns Canyon below that will be in WSA (massey/wilson #42)
from just before the end of the overlook on our way out
showing condition of the overlook road beyond the slickrock section
slickrock section and stock pond/dam.
Turn around point at the up canyon end of Johns Canyon road.
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- Location
- Riverton, UT
I do not remember if this was posted before so maybe a duplicate.
My wife and I took our 5th wheel trailer on a 4700 mile trip to visit family, do some family history research and deliver a proposition to the head of the BLM Bob Abbey for the U4WDA. The meeting was set for 11:00 AM Wednesday October 27th. Bob Abbey was called to Reno, NV by Secretary of the Interior Salazar so he tried to get our meeting changed to Friday but I could not make that day. I had a meeting with John Tanner of Senator Hatch's office and he suggested some changes to our proposal that made me glad that the original time was not available. Now I am waiting for the latest edition to the closed route list and letters of support from various groups. I would hope that RME would also send a letter of support. I will make the proposal available after our next board meeting only to those groups that will write letters of support because I want to try and make a big thing out of it through news papers etc.
My wife and I took our 5th wheel trailer on a 4700 mile trip to visit family, do some family history research and deliver a proposition to the head of the BLM Bob Abbey for the U4WDA. The meeting was set for 11:00 AM Wednesday October 27th. Bob Abbey was called to Reno, NV by Secretary of the Interior Salazar so he tried to get our meeting changed to Friday but I could not make that day. I had a meeting with John Tanner of Senator Hatch's office and he suggested some changes to our proposal that made me glad that the original time was not available. Now I am waiting for the latest edition to the closed route list and letters of support from various groups. I would hope that RME would also send a letter of support. I will make the proposal available after our next board meeting only to those groups that will write letters of support because I want to try and make a big thing out of it through news papers etc.
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scoutabout
None
Thanks for your efforts Jack! Love to see the proposal if it's ok to view publicly. Keep up the good work!
- Location
- Sandy, Ut
Bump, what else have we lost in the last 18 months?
- Location
- Riverton, UT
Do we have anything new to add. Also be sure to take Coyote Canyon off the list.