anderson750
I'm working on it Rose
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- Price, Utah
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This has been my view on the situation since very early on when they established who was on the high risk population. Protect the high risk and let the rest of the world go on with life.
Coronavirus
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This has been my view on the situation since very early on when they established who was on the high risk population. Protect the high risk and let the rest of the world go on with life.
Lights and sirens to a gathering of 30 people at the beach today.
"Wagner said when police arrived at around 5 p.m., they observed approximately 30 people under the pavilion. Police reported none of the individuals were wearing face masks or social distancing, both of which are new rules required under emergency proclamations issued by Big Island Mayor Harry Kim and Hawai‘i Gov. David Ige."
“We had just finished the ending prayer and were about to leave when (three) cops came. I was packing up and people were staying,” Melendez said. “They called in 22 cops in 15 cop cars speeding down Ali‘i (Drive) with their sirens and lights on. This was not an emergency.”
5 arrested by the gestapo
Protest yesterday over the second lockdown on Oahu
Amazing to me the power the local government can employ on our freedoms in the name of a "pandemic"
"Wagner said when police arrived at around 5 p.m., they observed approximately 30 people under the pavilion. Police reported none of the individuals were wearing face masks or social distancing, both of which are new rules required under emergency proclamations issued by Big Island Mayor Harry Kim and Hawai‘i Gov. David Ige."
“We had just finished the ending prayer and were about to leave when (three) cops came. I was packing up and people were staying,” Melendez said. “They called in 22 cops in 15 cop cars speeding down Ali‘i (Drive) with their sirens and lights on. This was not an emergency.”
5 arrested by the gestapo
Protest yesterday over the second lockdown on Oahu
Amazing to me the power the local government can employ on our freedoms in the name of a "pandemic"
Corban_White
Well-Known Member
- Location
- Payson, AZ
I disagree. I think we are one more mask mandate away from embracing something like this with open arms. "Think of the children!!!"
Also, similar things are already in effect:
Vending Regulations in School- New laws by the USDA
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However, I agree that banning junk food sales to children would help with childhood obesity. I also agree that hiding in your house will slow the spread of pretty much any virus. I also think that if you don't ever use the internet you decrease the likelihood of getting hacked. I also think that putting steel bars on all your windows and welding your doors shut will make your house less likely to get broken into. I also think that if every household had daily social worker visits it would decrease child abuse. I also think that if cars were banned there would be less pollution and less traffic fatalities. And on and on.
But I don't do/advocate any of those things. Because what I DON'T agree with is the government telling us how to live our lives. And don't start with the drunk driving analogy. The roads are built by the government and their use is regulated. I get that there are differences between a free society and Anarchy. But there are also differences between a free society and a Dictatorship/Totalitarianism, and I would argue that - with the exception of the current disregard to our laws that is happening in certain areas of the country - the laws in this country are significantly closer to Dictatorship/Totalitarianism than they are to Anarchy. I believe that the government should do the very least interfering possible in peoples' lives, while still maintaining the purposes for which it was founded. If I own a business and I decide I don't want to sell my product to an individual, I should be able to. If a restaurant owner wants to have a dirty dining room with rodents and insects all over, while serving under-cooked food, there should be no health department to tell them they can't. I won't be eating there, but that should be my choice. If my neighbors one town over decide they all want to follow a man they believe to be a prophet and participate in relationships that don't follow my beliefs, they should be able to. It's THEIR CHOICE! I my not agree, so I don't have to participate. That's MY CHOICE! If someone wants to swing from an arch it should be their choice, even if one of them happens to miscalculate and ends up dead. We still need to be allowed to choose. That's why we formed the government in the first place, to protect our right to choose! Not to protect us FROM our right to choose! And certainly not to protect us from the consequences of our choices. If I decide to spend all my money now and not save anything for retirement, I shouldn't have the government stealing from the general population to make sure I can retire!
The government was founded to protect our right to choose, not to protect us FROM our right to choose and it CERTAINLY wasn't founded to take away that right.
*After I wrote this I realized it could come across as directed at UT410 because I quoted his post. It is not directed at anyone in particular but generally directed towards those who believe that government mandates are the answer to _________________________.*
Have to ask any of your kids attend this school district, if so were they tested?
www.ksl.com
Alpine School District reports 67 active cases of COVID-19, shifts 1 high school to hybrid learning
Alpine School District says 41 students and 26 employees from the 91 schools and six general district office facilities in the district have tested positive for COVID-19.
www.ksl.com
Spork
Tin Foil Hat Equipped
- Location
- Saratoga Springs, UT
My kids are in alpine school district, they haven't been tested. They just stick a mask on and pretend everything is normal.Have to ask any of your kids attend this school district, if so were they tested?
Alpine School District reports 67 active cases of COVID-19, shifts 1 high school to hybrid learning
Alpine School District says 41 students and 26 employees from the 91 schools and six general district office facilities in the district have tested positive for COVID-19.
Just curious if anyone was actually tested or if this is just straight BS. Smells funny to me
glockman
I hate Jeep trucks
- Location
- Pleasant Grove
My son is a senior and would be at pg high. We let him do online because we knew this would happen and would derail him. Better not to switch horses mid stream.
cuban b
You're all WEAK SAUCE!
- Location
- pleasant grove, UT
why would this be BS? It seems like the most likely outcome to me.
Because it feels like fear mongering bullshit is why. Been proven that children are less likely to be infected/transmit the virus. Suddenly days after opening here are all the cases cause by reopening. Why I was wondering if anyones children attended and if they were tested just to get a base for testing.
But the same scientist also say that protesting doesn’t spread so
It smells suspiciously of being used as an excuse to push the district to full online from pressure.
Troop92
Well-Known Member
- Location
- Layton, UT
Less likely does not mean can't. And the article didn't attribute the cases to simply reopening.
Taken as a whole, the article stated that 41 students out of 81,493 (76,000 attending in-person classes) had tested positive. If these cases were transmitted in the classroom setting, enough time has been spent in the classroom to show symptoms if any are present. One high school was deemed "high impact" and shifted to reduce student count on campus.
Sounds logical. Using science and the information we know about the virus to potentially avoid a full-scale school closure.
Businesses aren't allowed to be open? No problem if you're the speaker of the house and your nephew is the governor you're okay to get your hair did.
Ohh yeah and just like everything else its the republicans fault she broke the rules to get that hairdo because they don't want to listen to the scientists so the businesses can open.
Blame shift ninja
Oh yeah ..... no mask
Ohh yeah and just like everything else its the republicans fault she broke the rules to get that hairdo because they don't want to listen to the scientists so the businesses can open.
Blame shift ninja
Oh yeah ..... no mask
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But Shane and I quote
"Pelosi says Republicans could help create the conditions to safely reopen if they would only “listen to the scientists.”
You have the eyes to see... nice.
I think the general thought is that children under 12 don't seem to carry much of the virus. The mean age being reported within the school outbreaks is 18, so it has to be mostly high school and college kids.
xjtony
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- Location
- Grantsville, Ut
We just had an issue out here where there were reportedly 4 confirmed cases at a Tooele county high school. What amazes me the most is the outrage of parents who feel that the school did not notify ALL parents of who was confirmed. The district notified the families of everyone who came into direct contact, which in my opinion is probably all that they really could do without violating HIPPA laws. Another individual protection/freedom people are willing to completely forfeit for a tiny bit of false security. At what point does personal responsibility come into play? If you want to send your kid to school, send them with what they need to protect themselves (hand sanitizer, disinfecting wipes...) and try to drive home the fact that they should use the stuff. I know that can get a difficult with younger kids, but this is a high school. On a side note a LOT of the parents that are bitching are also the same ones that demanded their kids get to go back to school instead of home schooling.
ID Bronco
Registered User
- Location
- Idaho Falls, ID
I have told my kids if they feel sick at all to let me know and NOT anyone at the school. I'll keep them home if I believe there is cause and they may have "the" virus. I don't want everyone knowing what is happening with my kids, not everyone needs to know if there was no possible or probable exposure. I'd argue that if everyone has a mask on, no one needs to know who has a confirmed case. But as my wife tells me I don't give a rip about anyone but myself. I won't send my kids if they exhibit symptoms but I won't broadcast their symptoms or diagnosis with anyone. My kids don't need a scarlet letter of Rona. They already have to deal with being related to me. That's enough to scar any kid.
Troop92
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- Location
- Layton, UT
I'm curious though, @ID Bronco ... Would you not want to know, as a parent, if your kid had contact with somebody that did test positive for the virus?
As a parent, I would just assume that they did, and keep an eye on them. It's nobody else's business if you or your kids have/do have it.
I'll tell you this. If I get it, I'm letting all of you guys know! I'm going to live stream that shit.
I'll tell you this. If I get it, I'm letting all of you guys know! I'm going to live stream that shit.