D44 Flattop knuckles

[onlynaJp]

Can someone school me on this? I will eventually install a D44 in the front of my Jeep but I keep seeing info on Flattop knuckled axles and it looks like a better way to go. I don't like recreating the wheel when it comes to my Jeep. A little help please, thanks

 

[Badger]

there is a thing called the search botton try using it

hate to be rude but this has been covered way to many times

 

[onlynaJp]

I already did that "Oh so helpful"...got any other bright ideas? Hate to be rude but there is a thing called tact try getting some.

 

[Badger]

this has nothing to do with tact .you my friend don't have a clue as to how to use the search function.are you expecting a thread title that will jump out at you saying this is all about flat top knuckles because that isn't going to happen.you have to sort through them to find what you really need.

try changing the search option like

"44 High Steer"
"44 Flat Top Knuckles"
"44 Steering"

also there is google ..

there are other things that have to go along with your question as well.like what type Jeep is it.what exactly do you want to know about flat top knuckles.why they are flat?what are they for?what trucks had flat to knuckles?your question is just to vague for anybody to truely answer you

in your post it say "it looks like a better way to go" if you have seen what it is what question could you possible have.its kind of obvious what it is and what its for.

you have stock steering,you have high steer ,you have crossover steering.there are many different options to go into.it all depends on the application.

don't take my first post the wrong way but like i said it has been covered before.its not that hard to understand what flat tops are for

 

[Kiel]

just use a 44 out of a mid 70's waggy, and get them tapped out.

 

[Hickey]

To be fair, some of the older links were deleted when the server was moved.

 

[onlynaJp]

Now that's the response I was looking for. I guess basically I want to know know what's the best application...Chevy, Waggy... It's going under a 93 YJ. I can read on it all day but to have someone give me their two cents means more to me. thanks

 

[Badger]

a wag axle would work best as far as width but it won't match the rear axle all that well.now that leaves you with either having to use spacers in the rear to help match them which i'm not a fan of or find an axle and have it cut down.now if you would like to have the best 44 you can get it should be a high pinion 44 which i don't believe came in the wags only Chevys and Fords.depending on the application the axle may or may not have flat top knuckles stock.a late 70's F250 Ford axle would be the best its hp and it has flat top knuckles.also the problem with the Chevy axle would be its a passenger side drop not a drivers side like you need.a Ford is drivers side drop like you do need so that is three plusses for what you need with one minus having to cut the axle down.now the good news you have the axle cut on the passenger side and use a waggy inner axle to make it the right size .

second do you plan on doing SOA to it ?if so then yes high steer is the best option.it will keep all the steering up above the springs and out of harms way.

i don't drive or own a Yj so any other options i couldn't tell you and you'll either have to hope somebody else answers the post or do your own digging for answers

 

[N-Smooth]

well unfortunately not everyone likes to explain everything over and over. and if you are going to cop an attitude you will receive even less help.


wag axles are perfect width, they are like 2" wider than the rear which is totally normal. most frontends are wider. if you want a high pinion you have to go with ford and it will be fullwidth. with wag axles you will have 6 on 5.5 too, with ford it will be 5 on 5.5 or 8 lug

 

[Badger]

this should help you

 

[Greg]

...now if you would like to have the best 44 you can get it should be a high pinion 44 which i don't believe came in the wags only Chevys and Fords...

Correction: No GM Dana 44's or 60's were high pinion, they were all low pinion.

 

[onlynaJp]

Badger...I'm slowly switching to a Chevy drivetrain. Do you know off hand what year they offered flat tops and I heard something about putting the steering behind the axle also, any info?

 

[onlynaJp]

Just saw the link thanks. Thanks for the info guys

 

[Badger]

i wasn't completely sure but i figured if he went looking for one he would find that out on his own.

the good thing about the 44 is you can hodge podge parts from all different 44s to make it the correct bolt pattern and you can use Chevy knuckles on the Ford axle to get more beef on the top of the knuckle to help from breaking off a high steer arm.

 

[Badger]

don't quote me on this but i believe if you use Chevy knuckles you can spin the tierod bar to the back side but the drag link still has to go out front.if you go SOA its not worth it really.

 

[onlynaJp]

Still debating if I want to go SOA. I was thinking of getting 4" lift springs from Rubi Exp. and keeping it under. I had a SOA lift with 4" springs on my Landcruiser and it was a bit tippy...talk about over kill.

 

[Badger]

two different vehicles one had a full metal none removeable hard top( correct?) and a Yj is a soft top they should handle completely different but like i said i don't own or drive a Yj so as to how it handles with under and over i wouldn't know.you could also just sling fullsize axles under it and not cut them to regain stabilty

 

[onlynaJp]

My Cruiser was a bit different. I had it in Japan. It was a BJ74. Not a model offered here..I wish I could have brought it back to the states. Full width was what I was thinking.

 

[Badger]

oh i know which model it is

 

[DevinB]

Here's a couple good links:

http://www.pirate4x4.com/tech/billavista/Steering/Steering_Research/steeringresearch.htm

http://77cj.littlekeylime.com/web_rs44.html

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