I think four wheelers are in general are more familiar with the Moab 1-5 scale than they are the ski slope scale. Take a poll... It's the same thing, with the ski slope thing you are rating a trail on a scale from one to four, on the RR4w scale you are rating it from one to five. Also, if the sign goes too long without painting, you can still read the numbers. If a non-skier comes to a sign and it has a circle, and the next sign has a square, they are not going to have any idea which one is harder, but if one has a 2, and the other has a 3, it's pretty easy to tell which is harder. What does everyone else think? You can rate Con a 5, I don't care (I do think that'll attract more yahoos though), but there are many more difficult trails out there. Upper Proving Grounds and Upper Helldorado both come to mind. How hard is it to winch up a rock face? Very hard if you don't have a winch, but if you have a winch it's really not that hard. By far the easiest obstacle on Upper Helldorado is the winch only waterfall.
