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- West Jordan
It's a speed hole.
Digging into the 22RE
- Thread starter Kevin B.
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- Stinkwater
Why yes, that is in fact a giant fist sized hole in the side of my block.
Piston 1:
Piston 2:
Piston 3:
Piston 4:
3 is dry, with debris all over the surface of the piston. 4 has what looks like coolant, and is filthy to boot, with caked-on muck. I suppose I need to drop the pan and pull the crank in order to get the pistons out, huh?
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- Stinkwater
Found an '89 on KSL for $1500 that didn't seem like it needed too much work. I'm gonna have to wait, though, the budget isn't there.
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- Stinkwater
I think Ralph is a great guy, and I was happy with him at the time. Since then I've learned a little about motors and prices, and I'm not happy that he advised me to have him rebuild the existing engine (to the tune of near five grand) instead of buying a long block and having him swap it in, which would have been much cheaper. I wasn't happy to find out that some corners had been cut - he reused the timing chain tensioner, water pump, vacuum/radiator hoses, and who knows what else - for what I was charged, I would have thought inexpensive wear parts like those would be replaced as a matter of course. And I became even less pleased when the motor started using oil between changes, but I couldn't point to defective work on his part so I didn't push it. I still can't point to poor work on his part - I suspect if they'd screwed up it wouldn't have lasted even this long. This was probably the result of a defective part that failed early, and it is what it is. At this point, my only real gripe with Divinity is his prices, but I guess that's what happens when 50% of your customers drive a Lexus.
I've decided the universe just doesn't want me to have a 22RE. I'm chalking the whole thing up to a learning experience, and surfing Ebay for a JDM motor.
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- West Jordan
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- West Jordan
I think Ralph is a great guy, and I was happy with him at the time. Since then I've learned a little about motors and prices, and I'm not happy that he advised me to have him rebuild the existing engine (to the tune of near five grand) instead of buying a long block and having him swap it in, which would have been much cheaper. I wasn't happy to find out that some corners had been cut - he reused the timing chain tensioner, water pump, vacuum/radiator hoses, and who knows what else - for what I was charged, I would have thought inexpensive wear parts like those would be replaced as a matter of course. And I became even less pleased when the motor started using oil between changes, but I couldn't point to defective work on his part so I didn't push it. I still can't point to poor work on his part - I suspect if they'd screwed up it wouldn't have lasted even this long. This was probably the result of a defective part that failed early, and it is what it is. At this point, my only real gripe with Divinity is his prices, but I guess that's what happens when 50% of your customers drive a Lexus.
I've decided the universe just doesn't want me to have a 22RE. I'm chalking the whole thing up to a learning experience, and surfing Ebay for a JDM motor.
Very sad to hear, but $5K!!!! holy sh!t! that could have bought you 3 or 4 new trucks! I have had several complete rebuilds on 22REs with EVERYTHING replaced for well under $1k.
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- Stinkwater
Surely you're not suggesting that I defile my Toyota with Big-3 muscle?
I thought about a Chevy swap. I think a VW turbodiesel would be pimp too. But if I'm not going to stay with the 22 then I really think the 7mge swap is my best bet, in terms of bang for the buck. I have duals on the brain, and I think the Supra motor is the best output that lets me do dual transfer cases cheaply. Pretty much any other motor dictates an expensive transmission/transfer case adapter, and I'm not in a place that I can spend any more on this build than I absolutely have to.
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- Stinkwater
So what does one do with a busted block? Can you scrap cast iron, or is this thing worthless now?
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- West Jordan
sixstringsteve
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- UT
sad news kevin. Good thing you have given an engine swap so much thought before this happened.
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- Grand Junction, CO
Great idea, the 7MGE is neat but it's a tight fit!
sixstringsteve
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x3. This is my favorite motor I've ever owned. And with the 4.88s, you'd be able to turn 33-35" tires no problem.
Definitely something to consider, probably be easier to find than the 7m.
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- Stinkwater
Haha, has anybody with a 22RE not given an engine swap lots of thought?
I'm surprised at how many folks here and elsewhere are pushing for the 3rz. Steve, how much did the adapters for your duals end up running you?Options I'm considering:
1) 7M swap. I want it. I want it so bad I can taste it. I've wanted it for a year now. Greg telling me it's a tight fit has slightly damped my enthusiasm. I have to be able to work on whatever I choose, and I'm a big guy with big hands, tight engine compartments do not appeal. But it's still a Supra motor. I'm conflicted.
2) 5VZE swap. As much power as the 7M, more torque. OBD-2.
3) 3RZ swap. Less power, better mileage. OBD-2.
4) a built-up 22RE long block from Putneys - http://www.22reperformance.com/22RE Performance - Rebuilt Engines.html - the easiest option, and the least power, but probably enough when paired with a manual trans?
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- Grand Junction, CO
The 7MGE is tight front to back, plenty of room everywhere else. When I dropped mine into my truck, I ended up cutting out my radiator support and building a new one out of tube. It wasn't the best work I've ever done, but it seemed to the the best option at the time.
I know nothing about adapting a 3RZ in place of a 22RE, but it seems like a pretty good candidate.
Can I add one more option, that I personally would love to do into an early Toyota? A Mercedes OM617 turbo diesel! 25 MPG, 180 ft/lbs of torque! It's a simple engine, but still a lot of work to swap. It's a 5 Cyl, so it will be bigger than a 22RE, but smaller than a 7MGE.
Adapter - http://www.4x4labs.com/products/diesel-conversions/om617w56/
It's no powerhouse of an engine, but loads of torque... should work with daily driver duty well.
I know nothing about adapting a 3RZ in place of a 22RE, but it seems like a pretty good candidate.
Can I add one more option, that I personally would love to do into an early Toyota? A Mercedes OM617 turbo diesel! 25 MPG, 180 ft/lbs of torque! It's a simple engine, but still a lot of work to swap. It's a 5 Cyl, so it will be bigger than a 22RE, but smaller than a 7MGE.
Adapter - http://www.4x4labs.com/products/diesel-conversions/om617w56/
It's no powerhouse of an engine, but loads of torque... should work with daily driver duty well.