Do something more for land use - monthly service projects

[sixstringsteve]

It's time to step it up a little and get more involved in keeping our trails clean.

Let's start a monthly service project, focusing on a different trail each month. Let's start small. I need some volunteers to help with this.


Here's the plan: monthly trash clean-up day at a local trail.

Get 5 or 6 rigs. Bring some trash bags, and divide and conquer. Take pictures of the trash you collected there, maybe some before and after pics. Go wheeling/camping afterwards, have fun, and come back and report with your pictures.

We'll focus on a different trail each month (PET, Forest Lake, Mineral Basin, Skyline Drive, the B, Hanging Tree, Snakes, Delta, Moab, Sand Hollow, Vernal, wherever).

Let's get the ball rolling.


I need volunteers for someone to pick a month and a trail, and organize the project in the "upcoming wheeling trips" thread. If you don't feel like you can handle that, then be an attendee. Extra points if you bring someone who is new to wheeling or who doesn't know much about leaving no trace.

Post up if you can volunteer to head up a group. Post the trail you'd like to do, and the month you'd like to do it. Let's get the ball rolling.


As Skylinerider has pointed out, if you feel like doing more than picking up trash, call the BLM or Forest Service and ask for the recreation planner. Tell him that you are interested in having (insert group name) do a service project. Ask if they have any outstanding needs, or if you can suggest a cleanup/other project.

 

[cruiseroutfit]

Focus lad... chaos doesn't conquer. Some of those trails are adopted by clubs, not like its a turf eT type thing bit a common courtesy. Remember that service projects that don't hit the radar of land managers don't forward the end goal.

 

[sixstringsteve]

me... unfocused? never

I definitely don't want to step on anyone's toes. I know RME has adopted 5MP and Dirt Heads has adopted Forest Lake, but that's all I know of. Is there a place that lists which clubs have adopted which trails?


Since I don't really know how to get on land owners' radars on my own, I'm starting small: getting people out doing more than they are currently doing. If we had 12 people each year organizing and keeping our trails clean, I think that's a step in the right direction. It's not going to stop SUWA or raise the attention of the governor, but it will raise awareness among other wheelers. That's all I'm going for with this.

 

[Skylinerider]

To get on the land managers radar, call em up and ask for the recreation planner. Tell him that you are interested in having (insert group name) do a service project. Ask if they have any outstanding needs, or if you can suggest a cleanup/other project.

 

[sixstringsteve]

Cool, thanks for the direction Curt. I have added that to the main post.

 

[jackjoh]

To get on the land managers radar, call em up and ask for the recreation planner. Tell him that you are interested in having (insert group name) do a service project. Ask if they have any outstanding needs, or if you can suggest a cleanup/other project.

This is what U4 is trying to do with NPLD 2012. Ron Tolman and I had a meeting with the Blm Interim Director and the Trails person David Jeppeson 2 weeks ago and discussed how we could help get new projects for clubs. We are taking an old list of all the Government offices that Jason Goats put together back in 2007 and updating it. We will be announcing more on this as we get new information.

 

[sixstringsteve]

excellent.

 

[cruiseroutfit]

me... unfocused? never

I definitely don't want to step on anyone's toes. I know RME has adopted 5MP and Dirt Heads has adopted Forest Lake, but that's all I know of. Is there a place that lists which clubs have adopted which trails?

Precisely

RME has adopted RS & Con
BOR has adopted the greater 5MP area (highway adoption)
Lone Peak has adopted MEG
Dirt Headz was working on Mineral Basin, not sure if it came to fruition?
Utah 4x4 Club adopted Forest Lake
MotoUtah and others have adopted other AFC trails, there is actually a singletrack council that meets to discuss AFC and area needs.

It's not going to stop SUWA or raise the attention of the governor, but it will raise awareness among other wheelers. That's all I'm going for with this.

If that's the mission your on the right path, however its my opinion that it won't have any long-term effect which is what our trails and community need. At a minimum contact the local land manager and offer assistance and ask what needs they have, stewardship is major component of keeping trails open. Invisible stewardship is unfortunately as good as no stewardship at all. It goes without saying that every trail ride should be a basic trash pickup.

 

[Skylinerider]

We are taking an old list of all the Government offices that Jason Goats put together back in 2007 and updating it. We will be announcing more on this as we get new information.

These should help some:

http://www.blm.gov/ut/st/en/info/directory.html

https://hrm.gdcii.com/directory/R4.htm

http://trustlands.utah.gov/contact/index.html

http://stateparks.utah.gov/about

 

[cruiseroutfit]

...We are taking an old list of all the Government offices that Jason Goats put together back in 2007 and updating it...

Jason eh? The Land Manager Contact Project was my baby, Jason and Ellis were supposed to manage the delegates to operate the plan, in the end the same few that were in contact with their local LM continued the dialogue and the others had hat-pin and member jacket projects to work on.

Steve, if you have some time and energy, the Land Manager Contact List Project IS one that would make a difference, both in terms of name recognition/awareness but also in identifying and solving problems before they result in long term closures. I still have all the original LMC stuff and would be more than happy to brief you on the project. In its short lived time it proved effective.

These should help some:

http://www.blm.gov/ut/st/en/info/directory.html

https://hrm.gdcii.com/directory/R4.htm

http://trustlands.utah.gov/contact/index.html

http://stateparks.utah.gov/about

Those are primary starting point. The LMCP was more detail, i.e. identifying and building a relationship with the Volunteer Coordinator and enforcement in each and every BLM/SITLA/SP/FS district in the State of Utah. In mirrored a 'calling tree' in which each BOD member or volunteer would be in charge of making quarterly (ideally more often) contacts with their assignments, offer assistance, follow up on needs, concerns, etc and use that information to mitigate incoming trail concerns, RMP's, enforcement issues, etc. Not only would it make planning an NPLD a cinch, it would put the 4x4 community in the face of the land manager's. Assignees would continue to feed updated contact and position info to the LMCP list manager (which was Jason and Ellis). It would require the commitment and resources of the majority of BOD members but it doesn't require a commute to a monthly meeting and would have 10x the impact of a newsletter or t-shirt imo.

 

[sixstringsteve]

Steve, if you have some time and energy, the Land Manager Contact List Project IS one that would make a difference, both in terms of name recognition/awareness but also in identifying and solving problems before they result in long term closures. I still have all the original LMC stuff and would be more than happy to brief you on the project. In its short lived time it proved effective.

I have energy. Once my thesis is done I'll have time (January). I'd like to learn more about this.

 

[Skylinerider]

Those are primary starting point. The LMCP was more detail, i.e. identifying and building a relationship with the Volunteer Coordinator and enforcement in each and every BLM/SITLA/SP/FS district in the State of Utah. In mirrored a 'calling tree' in which each BOD member or volunteer would be in charge of making quarterly (ideally more often) contacts with their assignments, offer assistance, follow up on needs, concerns, etc and use that information to mitigate incoming trail concerns, RMP's, enforcement issues, etc.

Now I remember you talking about it back in the day when I used to come to U4 meetings, thanks for the memory jog.

 

[cruiseroutfit]

I have energy. Once my thesis is done I'll have time (January). I'd like to learn more about this.

Keep me posted, it would have a bunch of up front time of which I am happy to help head up... after that assuming there are enough hands, it would be an hour or so a month for each delegate.

Now I remember you talking about it back in the day when I used to come to U4 meetings, thanks for the memory jog.

I still think it has a ton of merit... imagine if we had a working relation ship with every land manager district in the state? Obviously some will nurture more than others but wouldn't it be so productive to work with rather than the all too common against?

 

[scoutabout]

It's time to step it up a little and get more involved in keeping our trails clean.

Let's start a monthly service project, focusing on a different trail each month. Let's start small. I need some volunteers to help with this.

Leadership doesn't happen by committee. Make it happen. If you're waiting on someone else, you're taking too long. Instead of starting threads, make something happen IRL.

Focus lad... chaos doesn't conquer.

Indeed! One project would be a good start!

 

[SAMI]

Jason eh? The Land Manager Contact Project was my baby...

It's true.. We were charged with updating and keeping current. Once Ellis bailed just weeks into that I eventually got bogged down and stopped doing it altogether. Then I peace out of U4 because of ridiculousness.

Kurt/Steve H - keep me in the loop about the revival of the land manager calling list. I would like the opportunity to redeem dropping that ball.

 

[cruiseroutfit]

...would like the opportunity to redeem dropping that ball.

The Fundamentalist U4 forms out of the ashes...

 

[sixstringsteve]

Leadership doesn't happen by committee. Make it happen. If you're waiting on someone else, you're taking too long. Instead of starting threads, make something happen IRL.

I agree that a committee doesn't always create leadership. I'm doing all I can with my available time for now. So I thought I'd stoke the fire and see if I could get some more people involved. I think in order for us to be successful we need more than 2-8 people carrying the load. I think everyone could do a little more. This thread was started to give people direction and begin being proactive. It's not going to solve the land use battle, but it might solve the problem of the burden fallen on the shoulders of a few.

 

[jackjoh]

Quote:
Originally Posted by jackjoh
...We are taking an old list of all the Government offices that Jason Goats put together back in 2007 and updating it...
Jason eh? The Land Manager Contact Project was my baby, Jason and Ellis were supposed to manage the delegates to operate the plan, in the end the same few that were in contact with their local LM continued the dialogue and the others had hat-pin and member jacket projects to work on. Quote:

Steve, if you have some time and energy, the Land Manager Contact List Project IS one that would make a difference, both in terms of name recognition/awareness but also in identifying and solving problems before they result in long term closures. I still have all the original LMC stuff and would be more than happy to brief you on the project. In its short lived time it proved effective. Quote:


Kurt, Jason is the one that contacted me about helping with the list so I assumed it was his project. This project has already begun to take shape with visits to the BLM office in SLC and FS office in Logan. Both the BLM and FS have said they support the idea. In fact the FS gal I talked to was surprised I was being cooperative and wanting to help with projects. The first kick-off meeting will be Thursday 10/27 at the U4 BOD meeting to set up a planning schedule outside the BOD meeting. This was started to facilitate NPLD planning for 2012 but of course as has been noted in this thread it has a greater use and purpose. Thanks for starting this list as it makes my work much easier. If you or Jason would like to take it over and be a part of its resuscitation come to the board meeting or drop me a email. j4x4jj@comcast.net

 

[ret32]

Jason eh?

The thread on the U4 BOD forum that contains the list has Jason's name on it. That's probably where Jack got that impression from. I had assumed the same.


At the meeting Jack and I went to with the BLM state office, we discussed ways that U4 can strengthen its relationship with the BLM on a statewide level that would benefit individual club's relationships with their local BLM offices. The state office seemed to believe that they could assist in facilitating the communication structure. We also discussed other resources that the BLM felt could facilitate inter-agency communication efforts. U4 will be reviewing these options at its next meeting.

 

[Sawtooth]

All this talk about sitting through meetings,and picking the right pin or hat, makes me want to go WHEELIN!:greg: