E-Commerce software opinions?

Caleb

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Is Ecwid a setup where you upload all your content to their server? Or is it something where I can download the software, build the site and never have to worry about them again?
Like Wayne said, your database is on their server. That's what I mentioned in my review of it. Is that a bad thing, not always, but you do rely on them to be around. That's also why I mentioned I'd only use it for a small store. Having to re-enter 15-20 items is no big deal, if you had a larger store, re-entering would be detrimental. They use Amazon cloud computing, so I wouldn't worry about the availability, the uptime will be better than just about any other solution, but if they are unable to make enough money to keep the site up then your store could go to the wayside...or they could start forcing ads on your store...or...

They have talked about offering an "Enterprise" version that would not rely on their servers, but it's obviously not released yet and when they do, who knows how much it's going to cost (if anything).
 

cruiseroutfit

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Ah, very good. I re-read your review and caught that this time. Hmmm, decisions, decisions. Like you said it won't be a big deal to re-enter a handful of items but on the other hand I want this to be rather autonomous for not just a few months but a year or more, worrying about the software would bother me? Thanks again for all the help!
 
Hi all. I'm Eugene from Ecwid team, just want to clarify some things.

Yeah, that and right now it's free. What do you bet once they get a few on their system, they all of a sudden start charging for their service. Then your only choice is to pay it, or completely start over with another software and host.

Ecwid is free. We're going to add paid accounts with premium features in the future, however free accounts will always be available. We won't also force our users to upgrade their accounts. All Ecwid features you get for free now, will always be free.

..And thats if they don't go out of business and close up shop leaving your site down.

no thanks. I get bitchy when my store goes down for a few minutes. I couldn't even imagine the company turning off the lights and going home...

Well, I cannot imagine it as well.

Our company is in e-commerce business for 9 years already (Ecwid is not the only our e-commerce solution). So we really understand how the stability is important in this industry.

We have big plans for Ecwid, so you can be sure that your store will always be available.
 

Caleb

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Riverton
Hi all. I'm Eugene from Ecwid team, just want to clarify some things.



Ecwid is free. We're going to add paid accounts with premium features in the future, however free accounts will always be available. We won't also force our users to upgrade their accounts. All Ecwid features you get for free now, will always be free.



Well, I cannot imagine it as well.

Our company is in e-commerce business for 9 years already (Ecwid is not the only our e-commerce solution). So we really understand how the stability is important in this industry.

We have big plans for Ecwid, so you can be sure that your store will always be available.
Welcome! It's good to get the questions answered directly from the source. Thanks!
 

waynehartwig

www.jeeperman.com
Location
Mead, WA
Definately - welcome!

It's not you, it's everyone that has a setup like yours - I just don't trust it. If your webhost fails, you can always move your website to another host. But if your host also owns yours software, taht you can never backup, your at the mercy to that company. Nobody ever hopes or wants to go out of business, but it happens. To me, my stoer is mission critical. When it's down, I lose revenue - and sleep! :D
 

waynehartwig

www.jeeperman.com
Location
Mead, WA
I'm continuing to look for e-commerce softwares... as I've browsed the web for work and play the last few weeks I've spotted a couple formats I like.

http://www.justdifferentials.com/index.php?main_page=index
(unknown software)

http://www.toyteclifts.com/index.php?option=com_virtuemart&page=shop.browse&category_id=84&Itemid=2
By: http://virtuemart.net/

I'm pretty sure JT's is Zen Cart....
And the Toyota one is Joomla/Mambo with a module called swMenuPro.
 

cruiseroutfit

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Bump...

As business slows down I'll have some time to finally get rocking on my side projects. I've been reading a bunch on different e-commerce solutions but have yet to find one that really screams at me.

Wanted to see if there was anything new on the market or a product you've been really happy with.
 

cruiseroutfit

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Playing with that one, looks pretty straightforward. That looks like it would work well for a 15-20 product line? Payment gateways has me stumped. Can I create a spot in the form for the customer to enter their credit card info so I can just process it with my standard machine as I currently do or will I have to subscribe to a new credit processing firm? I know 3Dcarts is this way, I like their setup but they have expensive processing attached.


Dumb question, but why are these free? I mean sure I can make a donation but is there a security risk with downloading their 'free' software? What is their motive to make me money :D
 
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Herzog

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Payment Gateway: You probably already do card processing with a company (electronically through a payment gateway via card strip reader or PC app), find out if they offer an online gateway as part of their current plan you have with them. Some places include it, some places try to get more money out of you.

The spot for customers to enter their billing & shipping is built into the software. You only have to provide an SSL certificate to make sure that nobody snoops their info while typing it into your site. SSL certs are essentially free, what you pay for is the ability for the ssl provider to verify you are who you say you are to the customer on your website, so they feel safe about inputting their credit card #. It's surprising how many people actually don't even look to see if a site is secured or not. :sick: But regardless you will likely be bound by your payment gateway processor's agreements to provide an SSL Cert.

Very basically, an SSL connection encrypts the connection between the users computer and your website so Mr. Joe Wanna-be Hacker sitting next door connected to the customers open wireless, watching his internet traffic stream by can't read the data being passed between the user and the website and steal the users credit card info. Without an SSL connection, guess what... all your traffic is plain text and can be sniffed very easily if somebody were so inclined. That's also why it's important to have your wireless encrypted but that's a different subject. :D

Software: Many of them are free because they are based on open source. Most of which you can trust even more than many "paid" software because the code is open to view to any developer who wishes to look through it. Just because you pay for software doesn't mean it's any good. :D I'm a huge fan of open source software in most cases. Places like this monetize through offering paid support and help. Magento does the same but the also now have an enterprise version that includes some things they decided not to include in their "open" version.

The only thing I can really recommend to take away some of the biggest headaches of setting this up would be to make sure your current card processor is compatible or has "modules" available for the cart software you decide to go with. I've had to have people switch processors just to make it easy on my end and get it done with... most of the time saving money for them too.

If you need more info, feel free to call me anytime. Else-wise I'll try to keep answering in this thread too. :D
 

cruiseroutfit

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Wow great info Shane, that answers a bunch of my behind the scenes questions. I need to give my CC processor a call and go from there.
 

Caleb

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Riverton

That one looks pretty nice. Very simple to use as well. I could see this one being a viable option for small stores or even medium sized stores. The one thing I did notice is if you want to use options, you can't limit them very well. Meaning you can really only have one option per product. Since you can't limit, say a pair of shoes to having size 10 in red and green but size 9 in red, green, and blue. Not a huge deal for most people. I really like the interface though, both the front end and back end. Thanks Shane. :)
 

waynehartwig

www.jeeperman.com
Location
Mead, WA
I found OSCMax and have been using it with pretty good success lately... Built off the OSCommerce platform, like so many are... I have no issues with it, but some do. But for being a 'crap' platform, there are so many others using it.

Dunno.. It's cheap and easy to use. I've done demos of the more expensive carts and keep coming back to this every time.
 
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