I have the front driveshaft out of my ZJ right now, but I doubt 4x4 would make these tires perform any better in the snow. My ZJ isn't a powerhouse by any measure, but just putting the thing in gear makes the rear slide... Stepping in the gas and I make them slide at will. And that isn't a good thing with this heavy wet stuff... Just saying. And their Wild Mountains probably aren't any better, look to be the same tread.
Falken Rocky Mountain AT-S tires SUCK in the snow.
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Huh... I've been driving on them for a couple months and I love the way they hook up on slippery/icy/snowy roads. Went out about an hour ago to pick up dinner and the roads were slicker than snot and didn't spin a tire or have any drama at all. Definitely better than the BFG KO/AT's that were on the rig before. Liking them so much that I'm thinking they are probably the next tire I'm buying for my truck too.
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AddictedOffroad
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Not much siping on them. I bet siping them on the center would do wonders. I know I hated the KM2s in snow/ice, but when siped they do much better.
RockMonkey
Suddenly Enthusiastic
Balding Michelin Hydroedge tires with 70,000 miles on them also suck, for the record. Combined with front wheel drive and a working hand brake though, they drift like a champ.
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The set i have are their high country ats. They are good but very loud. I cant wait til they are wore out.
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Maverick
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So weird to hear people that don't like the BFG AT KO's in the snow, especially compared to the Falken/Toyo/Nitto tread pattern, which I now have direct, side by side experience with three of the four above tires. (BFG's great when new, Toyo's ok, Nitto's suck)
So, what tires ARE better in the snow* than the BFG AT KO's? I mean, besides Duratrac's?
Edit: *talking about snowy pavement, packed snow, or just a few inches of snow vs deep backcountry snow just to stay relevant to the conditions in the original post.
So, what tires ARE better in the snow* than the BFG AT KO's? I mean, besides Duratrac's?
Edit: *talking about snowy pavement, packed snow, or just a few inches of snow vs deep backcountry snow just to stay relevant to the conditions in the original post.
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Tacoma
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told ya. I love BFG ATs.
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- West Bountiful, UT
The BFG AT's have done GREAT for me in the snow. I've been running them for as long as they have existed. Have worn out more sets than I can remember (literally - I couldn't begin to name the sets of them I've bought). Have them on two vehicles right now, my CTD and my Wife's Denali. But... These Falkens are definitely better. My opinion of my experience anyway. And, cheaper to boot. Seriously pretty sure that's what is going on my truck next. Running them on a pig of a Toyota right now (Lexus 470/100 Series), that, like I said, had the KO's on it before these Falkens. Granted, the KO's had about 40K on them and weren't exactly fresh anymore, but I changed them out because they were getting scary in the slick. The improvement going to the Falkens was dramatic and they seem to have improved more as they break in. Not the least bit loud, either. The Toyota I have them on is a gutless wallowing pig, but it's a QUIET gutless wallowing pig. I don't notice the tire noise at all.
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Maverick
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When the BFG's are half worn they don't seem to be any better than anything else, especially anything else that is new.
The last two years I've been able to do side by side with them and the Toyo's and now the Nitto's on our cabin road, similar snow conditions.
Due to uber crappy suckdog snow performance with the Nitto Terra Grappler (same tread design as Falken's and Toyo's being discussed) I finally bought Duratrac's cuz I got tired of chaining up.
The last two years I've been able to do side by side with them and the Toyo's and now the Nitto's on our cabin road, similar snow conditions.
Due to uber crappy suckdog snow performance with the Nitto Terra Grappler (same tread design as Falken's and Toyo's being discussed) I finally bought Duratrac's cuz I got tired of chaining up.
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Well... The BFG's n the Wife's Denali are fairly new. They do great, not complaining, I wouldn't have bought like a dozen sets of new BFG's if I didn't like them, but, my opinion, the Falkens are clearly better. That's comparing two very similar vehicles, a Lexus LX470 and a GMC Denali, with newish tires on both.
It's only my opinion of my experiences though. The OP has the exact opposite opinion, he started this thread to point out how much the Falkens suck on snowy roads, the exact opposite of my thoughts. So... Who knows
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It's only my opinion of my experiences though. The OP has the exact opposite opinion, he started this thread to point out how much the Falkens suck on snowy roads, the exact opposite of my thoughts. So... Who knows
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The 32x11.50 bfg ats on my little ranger suck in the snow.snow
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flexyfool
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The tires are too wide.
For reference, I'm running 30x9.5x15s on my ZJ. I bought these tires a year ago December and have been pleased with their performance so far. It never snowed enough last year here in Tooele to get a good feel for them. And after running trails last summer, I was pleased with them, they never seemed to fall out of balance. On the highway, they are fairly quiet as well. They have probably 12-13,000 miles under them and are still in good shape, except for one which is due to an alignment issue. So I've been happy with them up till now really. Sure the last couple snows showed them as not performing very good for me. But I kept thinking its because I don't have the front driveshaft in. (I'm stuck on the double cardan disassembly, but have all the parts I need, its just been too cold in the garage for my back).
Offroad in deep snow, these tires might very well be the bomb. But on paved surfaces where the snow is packed, I think I had better traction a few years ago on almost bald no-name ATs... Sorry, I just have a vastly different opinion of these tires. It might just be this size tire and my Jeep being a bad combination. I hate to paint the whole series as bad, but I'd sure hate to put these on something heavier. I was going to get a set on my 4x2 Supercrew, but thats just not going to happen with this experience.
Thats the last time I let a Discount Tire store manager talk me out of the tires I wanted, just for his expediency in price matching. They do look gnarly and do have deep tread, but with the wear on that one tire, it does look more like a Semi type steering axle tire.
Let me add, when I bought this Jeep in 2006, it had a set of 235/75-15 BFG ATs. And they did very well, for the year and half I ran them before the lift and going to 31s. I dropped to 30s last year in an attempt to regain some highway MPGs, I'm running 3.73s in the axles.
Offroad in deep snow, these tires might very well be the bomb. But on paved surfaces where the snow is packed, I think I had better traction a few years ago on almost bald no-name ATs... Sorry, I just have a vastly different opinion of these tires. It might just be this size tire and my Jeep being a bad combination. I hate to paint the whole series as bad, but I'd sure hate to put these on something heavier. I was going to get a set on my 4x2 Supercrew, but thats just not going to happen with this experience.
Thats the last time I let a Discount Tire store manager talk me out of the tires I wanted, just for his expediency in price matching. They do look gnarly and do have deep tread, but with the wear on that one tire, it does look more like a Semi type steering axle tire.
Let me add, when I bought this Jeep in 2006, it had a set of 235/75-15 BFG ATs. And they did very well, for the year and half I ran them before the lift and going to 31s. I dropped to 30s last year in an attempt to regain some highway MPGs, I'm running 3.73s in the axles.
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Siping might help indeed. Letting my one tire get the way it is , is certainly my fault. But it sure looks worthless right now.
YOUKNOW
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Has anyone ever tried the Hankook's? I loved them. They came with some siping and were awesome in the snow. I had BFG A/T's for a while as well, good tire too.
I vote for the Duratrac's, I think they were only $1 per tire more than the bfg at's for my stupid-duty.
Of course I am a bit of a goodyear snob...
Nathan
Yep...I have them on my duramax work truck...got talked into them by the rep at EJS last year. I am glad I didn't put them on my FJ Cruiser and went with the duratracs instead.
The Rocky Mountains really blow in the snow. I wish I had another set of Goodyear Silent Armors on my work truck still, it made my work truck a mountain goat but with the Rocky Mountains it is a lame duck!
Tacoma
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not just A lame duck, the lamest duck. I can't believe how bad they are. We almost got stuck trying to turn around the other day! lame