Finally leaving the dark ages of the net....

Milner

formerly "rckcrlr"
Well, I finally ordered DSL....(yea cable blah, blah, but NO)

So what do I need to make it wireless and secure?
Will wireless slow it down?
My lap top is wireless ready. Do I just need a router?
Remember, I am not puter literate.
What if I want to let my nieghbor (duplex) share? Can I keep others from not "sharing"?
How do I make sure Shawn can't "share" or spy on me? :D
Does the conection slow done with 2 computers conected? Will it effectively link our computers? I really don't want anyone having access to my stuff.

TIA
Marc
 

Meat_

Banned
Location
Lehi
If you are getting it from Qwest the modem has built in wireless (54g).... the only 100% secure wireless is wireless that's turned off. Yes you can let your neighbor use the wireless assuming he has signal, but it's against your contract. The more computers you have on the wireless the slower it will be, but the speed of the dsl is WAY slower than the wireless.
 

Caleb

Well-Known Member
Location
Riverton
Wireless is easy to setup and secure. The main thing you need is an access point, most have a 4 port router built in as well. Once you have that, then you just need cards for each of you computers you want to connect, if your laptop already has an internal card then you wont need anything additional for it. My thoughts on wireless is different than most peoples. I leave mine wide open (and wish others would do the same). The reason being is how nice would it be that you could get your email on your PDA or laptop anywhere you can get a signal? Or pull up driving directions anywhere you get a signal? Or...the list goes on. Just be sure to secure your machines with botha harware firewall and a software firewall. Wether you have your Wireless secured or not you should still use both levels of a firewall. This will protect your personal files for most people. One thing is, if someone want to get in to your system they will get in, PERIOD. Thats the number one thing that is taught in most security classes being prepared for when that happens is what you need to consider. To enable it so only you and your neighbor can connect you should probably do a couple things. If you want it secured do that and only you and your neighbor have the key (it would prolly be best to setup your neighbors so only you have the key). Thats the firsty, the next is to do mac filtering and only allow your mac address and your neighbors mac address to connect. This will keep everyone but the most determined people off your network. As long as you dont share your computer on the network your neighbor will not be able get to any of your files. Now if you wanted to share certain things you can setup a single folder thats shared so anything in that folder is accessable by anyone on your network.

Wireless will not slow your connection at all. Even the slow wireless (802.11b) is still 11mbs. You connection is most likely 1.5mbs (could be faster, but I dont know of a reasonably priced solution in our valley that is faster than 11mbs). The faster wireless is 802.11g and its 54mbs...they are now developing faster technologies too. Even if you are maxing your connection out at 1.5mbs (or whatever it is) you will not be limited by your wireless on the internet. The only place you may notice a slow down is on your local network. If you are transfering between two computer on you network a wired network can get speeds as fast as 100mbs, while (as I pointed out above) wireless is limited to slower transfers. If possbile I hard wire my computers, but sometimes wireless is a good solution. I do transfer a lot of larger files because I have my server that I host all my files on.

Being limited on speed becasue more computers are connected is determined by your ISP. With cable I know you are limited to XXmbs and no matter how many compters you have on your line you wont get faster than that. DSL (depending on provider) may be different.
 

Caleb

Well-Known Member
Location
Riverton
Meat_ said:
If you are getting it from Qwest the modem has built in wireless (54g).... the only 100% secure wireless is wireless that's turned off.
I would highly suggest not using that access point...its the Action Tech and is known for regularly locking up...qwest doesn't support the latest firmware that fixes that problem so if you install it you are on your own.

Yes you can let your neighbor use the wireless assuming he has signal, but it's against your contract.

in his case it may not necesarily be against his ToS. The ToS usually states in the same dwellign or same house etc...being a duplex he could probably slip through a loop hole...either way they will never know if he is sharing unless they came out and inspected his setup and even then the neighbor would just have to turn off his wireless and they would never be able to tell.
 

81Ramchargerman

Registered User
Location
idaho falls
rckcrlr said:
Does the conection slow done with 2 computers conected? Will it effectively link our computers?
Marc

I don't think anyone covered this, Yes more than one computer will slow it down... And as stated above built in wireless router... :cool:
 

81Ramchargerman

Registered User
Location
idaho falls
Supergper said:
I would highly suggest not using that access point...its the Action Tech and is known for regularly locking up...qwest doesn't support the latest firmware that fixes that problem so if you install it you are on your own.

Can expand on this a little? Is this just while using wireless or what? At my dad's we didn't have that problem, his windows me crashed, but I don't think the modem locked up...???
 

Meat_

Banned
Location
Lehi
Supergper said:
...I leave mine wide open (and wish others would do the same). The reason being is how nice would it be that you could get your email on your PDA or laptop anywhere you can get a signal? Or pull up driving directions anywhere you get a signal? Or...the list goes on. Just be sure to secure your machines with botha harware firewall and a software firewall.
And to change your router password.

Supergper said:
...DSL (depending on provider) may be different.
It's still the same speed, just shared via the router.
 

Meat_

Banned
Location
Lehi
Supergper said:
...its the Action Tech and is known for regularly locking up...
Tell me about it :rolleyes: It has regular kernel panics.... I found a setting to bump the buffer up to 8MB instead of 1MB.... you have to redo it every time it cold boots though.....

Supergper said:
in his case it may not necesarily be against his ToS. The ToS usually states in the same dwellign or same house etc...being a duplex he could probably slip through a loop hole...either way they will never know if he is sharing unless they came out and inspected his setup and even then the neighbor would just have to turn off his wireless and they would never be able to tell.

They would still frown on it, but like you said, they'd never find out.
 

Caleb

Well-Known Member
Location
Riverton
Meat_ said:
Tell me about it :rolleyes: It has regular kernel panics.... I found a setting to bump the buffer up to 8MB instead of 1MB.... you have to redo it every time it cold boots though.....

If you go to ActionTech Webtsite they have a new firmware that fixes it, it does say to go to the qwest website but qwest does not have anything for a fix. Many have said they are using the one directly from ActionTech with success.
 

Shawn

Just Hanging Out
Location
Holly Day
I have a modem that I just got from Quest, it is their newest one..... but Quest Sux so I'm not using it anymore. Let me know if you need one.
 

Milner

formerly "rckcrlr"
Shawn said:
I have a modem that I just got from Quest, it is their newest one..... but Quest Sux so I'm not using it anymore. Let me know if you need one.

Thanks, already got one coming...freebe with the service....I went with earthlink. The have a deal going with sprint and my sat tv thing, so I get discounts on each for being with the other....after the first 6 month $19.95 deal....

Anything is better than Networld....just ask EZ!!
 

olywrestle

Duct Tape
Location
Syracuse, Utah
rckcrlr said:
Hellooooo, can we stay on task here.... :rolleyes:
No qwest here......

Just FYI, even though you have earthlink, it is still a Qwest dsl line and it is provided/provisioned by qwest. but earthlink should handle all of your tech support and such
 

Caleb

Well-Known Member
Location
Riverton
rckcrlr said:
Hellooooo, can we stay on task here.... :rolleyes:
No qwest here......


:rofl:

I haven't done anything with it recently but Zone Alarm used to be a pretty good freebie software firewall. For hardware, I personally use a nice Cisco pix 506...but they are quite spendy. Also, if you have XP the one from Microsoft will suffice for the average person...
 
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