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Kiel

Kiel

Formerly WJ ZUK
I would say yes, especially since they already have the ohv park there. But they are protecting it from trail riders so they can develop houses there?:rolleyes:
 
soda blaster

soda blaster

Active Member
Location
Saratoga Springs
The only thing I saw that was ok is that they closed it to everyone hikers, tree huggers, and ALL motor vehicles. But if they are just protecting it until big tractors can come dig it up I don't get it. Close the reserve but the rest let them at it. It's not like the developer is going to tip toe around there when he is digging it up.
 
Herzog

Herzog

somewhat damaged
Admin
Location
Wydaho
Wow... closed so that developers can someday come in and tear it up for more homes and huge profits. :ugh:
 
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LEBOWSKI

New Member
Location
Saint George
I'm new here but that area looked like an industrial area to me. I do know that developers will level that place to build houses so it's not like they're going to hurt anything. One thing that is pretty sad is the trash that people haul out there and dump, it amplifies the hate of hippies.
 
SAMI

SAMI

Formerly Beardy McGee
Location
SLC, UT
wow, i can only echo what's already been realized... preserve it so the earth movers can play on it?


WE'D REALLY LIKE TO PRESERVE IT SO WE CAN JUST F*%$ IT UP LATER
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Cherokeester

Cherokeester

Registered User
Location
Wellsville Utah
Honestly I can't figure out why anyone would want to shoot a sign. That right there points the massive middle finger right at anyone who has an OHV. This story makes little sense, protect the plants so a house can be put right on top of them. Hmm.., well they better plant good stuff in their yards.
 
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scoutabout

None
It's really about an area where OHV use is prohibited. Why is not an issue. It is prohibited in that area. Users should respect the closure or find legal ways to get it opened for motorized recreation. Shooting signs, busting fences, and breaking the law isn't the best way to get people on our side.
 
SAMI

SAMI

Formerly Beardy McGee
Location
SLC, UT
scoutabout said:
It's really about an area where OHV use is prohibited. Why is not an issue. It is prohibited in that area. Users should respect the closure or find legal ways to get it opened for motorized recreation. Shooting signs, busting fences, and breaking the law isn't the best way to get people on our side.
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I don't think anyone here is trying to justify why they should be able to tear down signs and ride. But are more wondering where the logic is, for preservation of land for a future home developement.

I agree that signs and fences should be obeyed. I wonder how much the city is bringing in on the issued tickets...
 
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scoutabout

None
Yeah, I definitely agree. I have the same questions as others. So they're protecting this from OHV use so it can be developed in the future??
 
SAMI

SAMI

Formerly Beardy McGee
Location
SLC, UT
Brett said:
I would suggest that someone call down there and find out why they would protect it when it's going to turn into a subdivision.....
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My email to Dave said:
I just read a KSL news report about the area down in the St George city limits that is seeing heavy OHV traffic, despite 'closed' signs, and fences.

The article creates more question in my mind about the reasons this area is currently closed. Half of the article explains that there are rare species of plant life, and that efforts are being made to preserve them. Yet, the other half goes on to explain that the future of this land will see 13,000 new homes.

What i'm wondering is, where is the logic of closing off the area if the future holds bull-dozing all of it and building on top of it anyways?

Is the entire area closed and citing trespassing OHV riders? Or is it just the Nature Preserve that is closed and citations being handed out for trespassing in that particular area?

I am all for obeying the posted signs, and follow Tread Lightly rules when i'm out in my full-size toyota(i don't ride ATV/dirtbike), but i'm just curious to get clearer answers as this KSL article left more questions to the reader.

Link to said KSL article---> http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=2870309

Thank you,

Jason Goates
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Dave Hebertson of the Trust Lands Administration said:
Jason,

I'll try to answer the questions in your recent e-mail to me.

The White Dome area (shown in the KSL report) is part of a 6,000-acre planned community in St. George we currently refer to as the South Block. The White Dome will not have any development in the future. It is a permanent nature preserve. In addition, the South Block area (of which the White Domes is a part) will have about 2,300 acres of open space, conservation areas, and parks. It is our desire maintain natural conditions for most of these areas. The 13,000 residences mentioned in the report will be built on a different 2,000 acres in the plan-area. No residences (or offices or commercial space) will be built within the 2,300 acres of conservation and open space in the South Block

There are a number of posted and fenced areas within the project. The reasons for the fencing and closures are to protect the planned conservation areas and to protect the public from dangers of the construction within the project area.

Please note that the Trust Lands Administration has provided for miles of OHV trails in various parts of the state, and will provide legal access to many more miles of trails. However, there are some areas that are closed to protect natural resources, to fix OHV damage that has already occurred, or prepare land to be transferred into private ownership. There may be other reasons, but I can't think of them at the moment.

I hope this better explains the fencing and closures you learned about in the KSL report. I would also be happy to talk with you to answer any other questions you may have and also to listen to your suggestions about how we might improve our part of OHV recreation in Utah. Feel free to call, and thanks so much for your interest in Trust Lands.

Dave
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