guns on planes?

[airmanwilliams]

So guys my father is coming to utah for a business trip on the 14th and really wants to look at some pistols at cabelas(particularly the hipoints) and was curious as to how he might be able to take it back to oregon and what the regulations are. Can some of you enlighten us please?

 

[J Kimmel]

I'd start with "check with the airline first" but, I'm pretty positive you have to

a. declare it
b. has to be unloaded
c. has to be checked in

 

[SpeedyVic]

If he is not a Utah resident, he cannot take it with him. He will have to find a FFL dealer in Oregon to ship it to and to handle the transfer for him. I'm not certain that Cabela's will or can take his money.

Also, just to clarify. You can take a gun on a plane. It must be unloaded and in a locked box seperate from any ammo. It must be declared at the counter where a special TSA agent will take you to a secure location and inspect the gun and box. It can then get put into a regular suitcase but a placard will be attached to the suitcase. That suitcase must be checked in. No carry on allowed!

All this is IIRC.

 

[Kevin B.]

I know for a fact there's Cabelas in Oregon.

 

[airmanwilliams]

I know for a fact there's Cabelas in Oregon.

I never knew there was one in oregon. I did think there was one up near seattle though.

 

[Kiel]

Come all the way to utah to buy a hi point, that is funny

 

[carsonc1974]

^^^ Ill second that... i'd stay away from the highpoints if i were you

 

[airmanwilliams]

Come all the way to utah to buy a hi point, that is funny

Thats not the sole reason he is coming down to utah but we always take a trip to cabelas when he is here.

 

[airmanwilliams]

Ive owned a few highpoints and the only one ive had an issue with is the 995 carbine jamming, never the pistols. And they have great customer service.

 

[SpeedyVic]

Ive owned a few highpoints and the only one ive had an issue with is the 995 carbine jamming, never the pistols. And they have great customer service.

I see them all the time at the range. Big, heavy, and ugly! But they do a pretty good job of going bang every time.

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[airmanwilliams]

And this is only intended to be a cheap gun to go plinking with. Not going to be used for home defense or anything of that nature.

 

[SpeedyVic]

And this is only intended to be a cheap gun to go plinking with. Not going to be used for home defense or anything of that nature.

Have you checked out budsgunshop.com?

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[Kevin B.]

I never knew there was one in oregon. I did think there was one up near seattle though.

I've been in the one in Eugene, and if there's one there there's probably one in Bend and one in Portland too.

 

[airmanwilliams]

According to their website there is only one in Springfield Oregon, didnt even know that myself. Guess im going exploring the next time im up there.

 

[Marsh99]

I'd start with "check with the airline first" but, I'm pretty positive you have to

a. declare it
b. has to be unloaded
c. has to be checked in

X2
and keep ammo separate.

 

[SAMI]

If he is not a Utah resident, he cannot take it with him. He will have to find a FFL dealer in Oregon to ship it to and to handle the transfer for him.

This is incorrect, as it is his personal property. It does not matter where he lives.

You will want to verify all rules/regs with the particular airline as well, as details can vary between airlines.

 

[blznnp]

there is also a cabelas in the south sound area, south of seattle by 1 1/2 hours- 2 hours, between tacoma and olympia

 

[N-Smooth]

My HP .40 handgun has been a great gun. I bought it for $150 with a holster and 100 rounds. It has only ever jammed when I had an aftermarket magazine. With the stock equipment it has never jammed in over 2k rounds. I've also only cleaned it once but most people don't even clean them at all.

Also, CalRanch usually has them in stock and I have to assume they're cheaper than Cabelas

 

[Spork]

Here's how I see it.
http://www.ok.gov/cleet/documents/airplane faq.pdf

You must declare all firearms to the airline during the ticket counter check-in process. This can be done verbally or in writing.
2.The firearm must be unloaded
3.The firearm must be in a hard-sided container and the container must be locked.
(A ‘locked container’ is one that completely secures the firearm from access by anyone other than you. Cases that can be pulled open with little effort do not qualify for this rule. In other words, make sure it really locks. Federal regulations prohibit unlocked gun cases on aircraft.)
4. It is ‘recommended’ by TSA that you provide the key or combination to the security officer if he or she needs to open the container. You should remain present during screening to take the key back after the container is cleared. If you are not present and the security officer must open the container, they will make a ‘reasonable effort’ to contact you. If TSA cannot contact you the container will not be placed on the plane.

Now that was pretty straightforward however I do not believe he can purchase a handgun out of state.
http://www.atf.gov/firearms/faq/unlicensed-persons.html
http://thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=285869

Q: From whom may an unlicensed person acquire a firearm under the GCA?

A person may only acquire a firearm within the person’s own State, except that he or she may purchase or otherwise acquire a rifle or shotgun, in person, at a licensee’s premises in any State, provided the sale complies with State laws applicable in the State of sale and the State where the purchaser resides. A person may borrow or rent a firearm in any State for temporary use for lawful sporting purposes.

[18 U.S.C. 922(a)(3) and (5), 922(b)(3), 27 CFR 478.29 and 478.30]

 

[TJDukit]

I've been in the one in Eugene, and if there's one there there's probably one in Bend and one in Portland too.

Bend is way too far out of the way for a Cabelas, granted it's in the right side of the state not the liberal hippy west side of Oregon.

This is from the Dept. of Public Safety website

Purchasing a Gun in Utah It is unlawful for a gun dealer to sell or transfer any firearm until an instant criminal history background check is conducted and approved by BCI.
A valid Utah concealed firearm permit may be used to waive the BCI background check and the corresponding fees. However, the dealer is still required to call BCI to confirm the validity of the concealed firearm permit.
A person who wishes to purchase a handgun must show proof of Utah residency.
A person who wishes to purchase a rifle or shotgun is not required to show Utah residency; however, the purchaser will be required to comply with the laws of the state in which he/she resides.
Laws governing the use of concealed firearms differ from state to state. It is important to understand the laws to ensure that your actions are in compliance with Utah law. Sources: 53-5-704 Division duties - Utah Code §§ 23-20-11 et seq., 24-2-17, 76-10-301, 76-10-501 et seq.



Says you must be a Utah resident to purchase a handgun. I know how to get around that since you live here but we shouldn't advocate skirting around the law now should we.