How would you build this trailer as light as can be?

N-Smooth

Smooth Gang Founding Member
Location
UT
Sorry, not getting email notifications for some reason. It doesn't have side rails, just big angle that sticks up a few inches from the deck height. Here's a pic when it had some awesome plywood over the trashed deck. The PO was my FIL and they used it to haul roofing supplies. I took 3 or 4 boards out of the middle so it's lighter and I don't get asked to help people move. I think my old Aztec was supposedly like 1500 lbs and this one seems even lighter.

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My dad has an angle iron Big Tex tandem trailer that is 35 years old or more. It has pipe side rails and has been overloaded most of it's life. He still uses it all the time to haul his Kubota tractor around (about 7k lbs) and hasn't done squat for maintenance on it... ever. I have no idea what it weighs though. My brother uses it often, and has damaged it several times over the years. I've repaired a few broken crossmembers for him.

Does yours have the side rails, Nate?

Maybe I should just copy my Dad's trailer, but with a single axle and shorter deck.
 

Gravy

Ant Anstead of Dirtbikes
Supporting Member
To haul my Jeep.

Dur duh dur. We all know that.

I mean what is your specific desire for a single axle over a dual?

I'm not fear mongering or trying to muddy the water, it's a genuine question, a lot of us haul trailers here.

I like Carl and Cody have had a catastrophic trailer failure where I would have been up a creek with a single axle.

I hit a piece of road debris (a rock that rolled into the road) at night and it instantly blew a tire and bent an axle. Had I been using a single axle I am most certain I would have tossed my Jeep off the trailer or flipped the trailer and wrecked me.

I was able to pull the tire/ wheel and strap the axle and get to safety.

For reference my trailer is a heavy equipment hauler with 7k+ lb axles.

I'm not saying it can't be done from a physics point of view... I just wonder why?
 

Greg

I run a tight ship... wreck
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This is a bit outside the box and would take up much more trailer bed real estate for the wheel wells... but would it be possible to run dual tires on a single axle, for safety sake? It would be heavier of course, but you'd have added safety from tire trouble. You could run a lower load rated tire as well, since the weight is spread out. I don't think it would be too hard to find some dually wheels to work with.

And I would say no matter what you do, try to find some of those Maxxis 8008 trailer tires... those things were damn near bulletproof! I don't remember who it was, but someone (Braden?) was always having random blowouts. Switched to those 8008's and no more trouble.
 

Hickey

Burn-barrel enthusiast
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The dual tire setup adds a little weight and added rolling resistance. It would have the same maneuverability issues as a con gear does. They are difficult to pivot, as they sort of "scrub" sorta like a tandem-axle trailer does, though not as bad.

A dual tired axle would also force a deck over design, which would also add weight. I want this to be usable as a utility trailer as well.
 
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rholbrook

Well-Known Member
Location
Kaysville, Ut
This is a bit outside the box and would take up much more trailer bed real estate for the wheel wells... but would it be possible to run dual tires on a single axle, for safety sake? It would be heavier of course, but you'd have added safety from tire trouble. You could run a lower load rated tire as well, since the weight is spread out. I don't think it would be too hard to find some dually wheels to work with.

And I would say no matter what you do, try to find some of those Maxxis 8008 trailer tires... those things were damn near bulletproof! I don't remember who it was, but someone (Braden?) was always having random blowouts. Switched to those 8008's and no more trouble.

Russ has lots of blowouts on trailer tires. I hate them. I dont know what it is with me but trailer tires hate me. That being said, this year I have yet to blow a tire and I have done a lot of pulling so maybe I am over it.
 

Hickey

Burn-barrel enthusiast
Supporting Member
Russ has lots of blowouts on trailer tires. I hate them. I dont know what it is with me but trailer tires hate me. That being said, this year I have yet to blow a tire and I have done a lot of pulling so maybe I am over it.
I personally think there are several reasons many people have trouble with trailer tires. They are just my personal feelings.

15" tires tend to be weak. They just aren't constructed as heavy duty as larger rim sizes are.

People overload their trailer, often without realizing it.

Under inflated tires.

Old tires/ sun rotted tires.

Heat is your number 1 tire killer. There are many things that cause tires to overheat, and wen they do they will degrade quickly and come apart.

You should always put a hand on each tire everytime you stop while towing. You need to do this to first develop a baseline, so you can then recognize an overheated tire when you feel one. A properly loaded tire will get pretty hot on a summer day, so you need to learn how to tell what is normal hot, and what is "OH crap, I've got a problem".

Even if you're not towing, this is a good practice for us off road guys when we air down.
We can run a ton of miles at 60 mph and 12 psi in a 4x4 safely, but it will heat up the tires more than street pressure would. It won't harm your tires unless your rig is pretty heavy to begin with, or unless it's 100 degrees outside. High Temps, heavy loaded tires, and low pressure is gonna get them hot fast.

Do yourself a favor. Touch your tires. Touch em a lot.
 

Johnny Quest

Web Wheeler
Location
West Jordan
perfect example of what Greg was talking about:



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xjtony

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Location
Grantsville, Ut
Yours looks good, Tony. Any idea how much it weighs? I'm guessing your buggy's width is wider than most 84" wide car haulers.
I think I'm 103 for width. I'm not sure the exact weight, but it's light enough to move around by hand

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Hickey

Burn-barrel enthusiast
Supporting Member
Isn't that a dump trailer?
Yeah, I figured I would spend a couple grand extra so I can winch my broken Jeep up in the trailer without ramps.







Actually, I bought some recreation property lately and used a friend's dump trailer to haul in some gravel. I quickly fell in love and bought my own. I've hauled 52 tons of gravel in there over the last few weeks. I can get 6 tons in there without overloading it.
 

N-Smooth

Smooth Gang Founding Member
Location
UT
I love the idea of picking up the tongue and rolling it around the yard but I'm still scared of getting a flat. I like the dually one more... I suppose.
 
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