I don't get why these vendors......

[Hickey]

who can resize this to be my new avatar

Here ya go, just right click and save it.

 

[Caleb]

too large still, yours is 115x150...needs to be 120x120 or smaller

here ya go

 

[Hickey]

D'oh! I was thinking 150.

 

[James K]

too large still, yours is 115x150...needs to be 120x120 or smaller

here ya go

thanks

 

[Shawn]

Do you guys think that this will be the only board in UT.

Maybe not in the future, but for now it's and it is the biggest. Burn a bridge here when over 2000 members are watching...... ummm not to smart.

You know the story, 2000 members tell 2 friends, then those 4000 friends tell two more, then those 8000 friends.....


ps, don't forget about the non-members that are just reading....

 

[onetuff76]

Hi and let me be the first to welcome everyone to
Rockymountainestrogen.com
leave your testicles at the door, grab a glass of wine, get comfy, and the view will be on in a few minutes!

 

[Jeremy]

this is cool. one thread goes away and another one comes up.

maybe Greg should start a B!TCH-N-MOAN forum.

 

[jamesgeologist]

I thought swearing and profanity were bannable offenses? I sure hope my young daughter doesn't login and see the new avatars and images of the profane explative for fecal matter!!

All you guys/gals talk about is rules...rules...rules. I seem to remember from the 'Guidelines and Principles of RockyMountainExtreme.com' section that changing letters with symbols in explatives to hide them from the computer sensor was generally frowned upon. I have to say that as a new father and one that would like to bring my daughter up in the 4X4 community, I am unimpressed with the level of maturity and candor amongst the members of this board.

"Vulgarity and Sexual Explicitness... As a community with a diverse variety of members and readers, we ask that our members to post without using vulgarity. Vulgarity not only includes vulgar language and pictures but also sexist, racist, anti-religious and homophobic language which may offend other members. In addition, the "masking" of vulgarity by inserting * or another keystroke in place of one or more letters in a vulgar term is unacceptable in most cases. We realize that there's a "grey area" of judgement with vulgarity but we ask that you'll respect others by avoiding vulgarity."

 

[cruiseroutfit]

I thought swearing and profanity were bannable offenses? I sure hope my young daughter doesn't login and see the new avatars and images of the profane explative for fecal matter!!...

No offense bud, but make sure you home school that poor girl...

I had to read books in middle school with worse words... Sit in a MS bathroom and your going to read alot worse stuff.

I agree with keeping the place clean and reverent, but a few words here and there are not going to destroy your poor child... Be glad you have an opportunity to discuss your ideals with your child...

Home school = Pokey

 

[jamesgeologist]

I use my daughter reading these posts as an example of even handed or lack of even handed application of the "rules". There is no doubt that I have a tough time refraining from the abysmal language that I get used to using out on the drilling rigs. However, it seems that there is little flexibility built in to the rules as stated. I provide an example of rules being broken (literal interpretation) and the example is passed over. One or two folks slightly misuse the BB and the rest of the board jumps their sh!t over it and start flaming in the name of "vendor rules". I realize this board is not a democracy or a cheerocracy, but it ought to be more clear in it's application of the rules. If you state it in the rules then you better enforce it!

Secondly, I may very well home-school my daughter. The Utah public schools ARE a joke. I'm not even convinced that the private schools are worth a sh!t. And I promise I won't let my daughter hear or read about you "drive[ing] the big blue v*****"

I've got to get back to choking roughnecks!!

 

[James K]

how about this.


I am offended by people who say what I say is offense.


IT IS YOUR CHOICE to read things or not to. same as it is mine. your kids will only see what you let them see on RME. you don't want them to see it then DON'T

 

[cruiseroutfit]

...Secondly, I may very well home-school my daughter. The Utah public schools ARE a joke. I'm not even convinced that the private schools are worth a sh!t. And I promise I won't let my daughter hear or read about you "drive[ing] the big blue v*****" ...

I loved public schools, the lessons I learned there cannot be duplicated by any parent or teacher.

Shelter you daughter all you want, but remember one day she will have to face the "real world" and if I were her, I would be pretty angered that my parents sheltered me...

As for the v*****, let you imagine take you where you want it to... Obviously your afraid of your own inclinations... Mabey you need to seek help.

PS... You a member of the local PTA? Attend school board meetings? Attend the govenors conference on education? A member of a school reform action group? Then don't complain about the system... Walk... Not Talk...

 

[cruiseroutfit]

...start flaming in the name of "vendor rules". I realize this board is not a democracy or a cheerocracy, but it ought to be more clear in it's application of the rules. If you state it in the rules then you better enforce it...

Funny you mention those that were "flamed" for their refusal to adhere to the "vendor rules"... In fact they are more guilty of any vulgarity violation than any of us... The reason you don't see a majority of their recent posts is because of the things they had to say...

Jump of you soapbox and back into the real world my freind, its a lovely place out here.

"but mom... he said a naughty word..."

BTW, regarding "better enforce it" WTF?

 

[Spork]

I loved public schools, the lessons I learned there cannot be duplicated by any parent or teacher.

Shelter you daughter all you want, but remember one day she will have to face the "real world" and if I were her, I would be pretty angered that my parents sheltered me...

As for the v*****, let you imagine take you where you want it to... Obviously your afraid of your own inclinations... Mabey you need to seek help.

PS... You a member of the local PTA? Attend school board meetings? Attend the govenors conference on education? A member of a school reform action group? Then don't complain about the system... Walk... Not Talk...

 

[SUPERFLY]

Secondly, I may very well home-school my daughter. The Utah public schools ARE a joke. I'm not even convinced that the private schools are worth a sh!t. And I promise I won't let my daughter hear or read about you "drive[ing] the big blue v*****"

I've got to get back to choking roughnecks!!

wow wow wow you get mad cuz people are swearing? then you yap about how its bad to dub in symbols in swear words, yet you do it yourself?

I'm not even convinced that the private schools are worth a sh!t.

you hypocrate
go back in your shell (where you cant get hurt)and i suggest you put your kid in public school so they dont become like you.
as for choking roughnecks?
i can only guess on how you plan to choke them

 

[Milner]

Secondly, I may very well home-school my daughter. The Utah public schools ARE a joke. I'm not even convinced that the private schools are worth a sh!t. And I promise I won't let my daughter hear or read about you "drive[ing] the big blue v*****"

I've got to get back to choking roughnecks!!

You just hit a very sore spot with me.
(on soapbox)
I fully support your right to do so, but coming from someone with degrees in Soc/Psych that works with Juveniles for a living, I will tell you that this is the worst thing you could do for her. Sheltering a child from the world is a grave injustice to them. It equates to mental abuse/deprevation. Children raised in a closed world never learn to deal with adversity, differing opinions, different perspectives, etc. They lack social skills and are unable to function in the world, or even in the academic world. I have delt many real life examples of the problems this creates. I wish I could tell you more, but most is confidential info, since it deals with juveniles. I could write (and may) a disertation on this subject, but I will spare RME of this.

As for vulgarity....You need to grow up! Words are only words, and they are only vulgar because you associate a vulgar concept with the word! Words have many different meanings to many different people. Your daughter WILL her them. One day or another she will be part of this world and all the $hit that is part of it!!

Be a responsible parent, teach her right from wrong, teach her to be a good person, be there when someone calls her a name, be there when someone steals her lunch, be there when her first pet dies, be ther when a date goes bad, but if you shelter her from all the crap in the world, she will never learn to deal with it. Give her a good base, reinforce it, and trust here to experiment in the world and come back to what she has been taught. Even the most criminal and insane can control their behavior when in solitary confinement....it doesn't mean that are no longer criminal or insane....
My point being, it is easy to be a perfect child when there is no outside influence. The true test of her character and your ability to teach her is for her to be a good child INSPITE of what the world throughs at her!! And please don't expect her or you to be perfect....your both human....
A mistake is only bad if you don't learn from it.
(of Soapbox)

Sorry for that Probably stirred up a whole new pot

 

[jamesgeologist]

IT IS YOUR CHOICE to read things or not to. same as it is mine. your kids will only see what you let them see on RME. you don't want them to see it then DON'T

The only problem I have with that logic is that how can I possibly know what is lude and lascivious until I read it. You're are right, I have every opportunity to prevent my daughter reading this or any other material. It is just the same with TV and movies. The distinction is that someone must take responsibilty for the posts, whether it's the poster, the Mod or Greg himself. Certainly it is not the reader that should be responsible for the post. How must I decide if my daughter can or can't read a post if I do not expose myself to that same material? Is it unreasonable to believe that I/we can trust the owner or the moderators at their word? Their word being this is a PG-13 BB.

I hate the idea that at this age, I will get my hackles up over a series of silly disagreements which I didn't even get involved in.(until now) We are a very diverse group with very different ideas about how the world turns. I expect that RME is the clean cut, semi-serious, goto BB for people who want to learn more about wheeling, not whining. PirateBB is for A$$holes that want to crush newbies like bugs and talk about every form of unobtainium equipment they don't have. Maybe there ought to be something in the middle. A board where all of the angry folks on RME can vent some of this rage that builds up and laugh about it when they're finished!!

I get the feeling that guys like Blacksheep and Bobdog get sick and tired of the griping and back-biting. If crap like this keeps coming up, I get the feeling they'll go somewhere else. To lose guys like that would be a real shame.

I need a hobby!!

 

[Klif01]

Well if you really want to, just keep her from reading the chit chat section...I personally don't come over here too often just because its usually someones oppinion, then someone gets pissed off at that oppinion, then everyone has ***** fit over that one little thing, the arguements go on for days. Then over in every other section (well maybe a little complaining in the land use section) you get for the most part good technical advice from people who have had experience in that area.

And on the homeschooling area, I was homeschooled here in utah till I was in 8th grade. True it helped me on an academic level, but there is a whole lot more to life than just school. I learned how to somewhat handle myself once I got into junior high and learned how to handle real life issues. If I was homeschooled through high school, I would probably not have a grasp on what I wanted to do with my life, I never would have gotten in the auto shop, and really learned how to work on cars, nor would I have looked for weber state as a college that would give me a degree for being a mechanic. But I don't think I really missed out in my grade school years. But what can I say? I missed out on the public school side of those years. Then there is my little brother who was homeschooled till like second grade. I'm not going to blame this on school or what not, but he's not the brightest crayon in the box, and he doesn't ever want to do his school work. Good luck with whatever you decide to do! And I am sorry I just wrote a novel.

 

[Milner]

You're are right, I have every opportunity to prevent my daughter reading this or any other material. It is just the same with TV and movies. The distinction is that someone must take responsibilty for the posts, whether it's the poster, the Mod or Greg himself. Certainly it is not the reader that should be responsible for the post.

Are you serious?! I am the ONLY one that is responsible for what I post!! The idea, that you would hold Greg or ANYONE else responsible for what I say is the most absurd thing I have seen on this board. And that is saying a LOT!!
You need to get out more....
Just as you can turn off the TV, you can turn off the computer!!!! It is YOUR responsibility to KNOW what you daughter is seeing....Trusting a TV/Movie/other rating is lazy and irresponsible on your part. If you are THAT concerned that something may be THAT objectionable, then REVIEW it first!! Otherwise, As I said before, teach her well and know that she will see it for what it is worth and in the view of the frame work you have taught her.

 

[jamesgeologist]

Rckcrlr, well said. I agree with you on everything you said. I have no intension of guarding my daughter from every little problem that may arise. My job as a parent is to prepare my child for the inequities of life. Provide her with a base for making sound and careful judgements. It is not, however, free reign to expose her to all that life has to offer by 15 months. The juveniles you are tending are products of environment. Am I not obligated to make that environment in which my child grows up, better/cleaner/a little less homocidal??

Truth be told, it is Utah that is the issue. There couldn't be a worse place than Utah to raise a child if you weren't interested in sheltering them or allowing them to develop social and coping skills....

I digress. The point of this exercise is to become one with the BB and establish better system of beating down non-conformants. All of that above really diverges from the point that I tried to make earlier. Consistent, uniform application of the rules......