Is a Slip Yoke the only way?

[Brad]

Not sure I follow what you mean...................:-\

You will need adjustable arms to achieve this pinion angle with a SYE kit and double-cardan (CV) driveshaft.

 

[JPNGRL44]

Awesome!! Thanks for all the info!

 

[Bone Down]

to add to this, I installed the teraflex extreme short shaft kit myself, with the aide of a friend (I have never done anything like this in the past ever, and it was pretty dang easy).

also the ess kit is actually 3 7/8 inches shorter than a standard sye kit and is one inch shorter than an atlas II (i compared them).

So with the ess kit you should be able to add around 5+ inches of length to your driveline.


follow the instructions that comes with the kit and you can do it yourself, I was worried about doing this myself and figured if I messed up I could take it in and have it finished, to my suprise the 231 is pretty simple inside and I look forward to installing my own 4:1 kit once I can purchase it.

You are welcome to stop by and look at how short mine is now and how much of the tail housing was left off as well as the old output shaft's small diameter compared to the thick HD output on the ess sye.

 

[waynehartwig]

you can also get a Tom Woods kit for 400 and that will come with a driveshaft.well when you get done you take the measurement call him up and he will send it out that day or next day.

It's $525 from Tom Woods, but if it were me, my money would go to Tom Woods way before I sent a penny over to Teraflex. JMO

Chances are the u joint is going out because it is a junk joint. If it's not Spicer, then it's junk. All of the lifetime warranty ones at Autozone are junk. A Spicer joint will go a long way. However, that will just get it to last longer, but it will probably eventually still fail. It's probably failing becuase the pinion angle is incorrect. With a 4" lift and 1.5" TC drop, you should not need a SYE or CV driveline.

With the SYE and CV driveshaft, you will also be able to remove the transfer case drop and get your clearance back.

 

[Bone Down]

With the SYE and CV driveshaft, you will also be able to remove the transfer case drop and get your clearance back.

yup I pulled my 1.5 inch TC Drop out as well, and it looks nice all tight up under there now.

you will need to buy 6 (on my yj any way) new skid plate bolts, mine were to long afterwords and would not work, replacement bolts cost me 6.50 after tax, bought them from a nut and bolt place just around 3rd and 17th in salt lake, I forget the name of the place.

 

[waynehartwig]

yup I pulled my 1.5 inch TC Drop out as well, and it looks nice all tight up under there now.

you will need to buy 6 (on my yj any way) new skid plate bolts, mine were to long afterwords and would not work, replacement bolts cost me 6.50 after tax, bought them from a nut and bolt place just around 3rd and 17th in salt lake, I forget the name of the place.

Good point!
Fastenal maybe? You might have to buy a package of 10 just for the 6, but it would cheaper than buying the 6 at Home Depot, or etc. Also better quality...

 

[Badger]

It's $525 from Tom Woods, but if it were me, my money would go to Tom Woods way before I sent a penny over to Teraflex. JMO

thats for the heavy duty model that comes with a new rear cover .if the jeep isn't being used for serious rock crawling and more of an everyday driver then why not go with the less expensive one for 400

 

[waynehartwig]

thats for the heavy duty model that comes with a new rear cover .if the jeep isn't being used for serious rock crawling and more of an everyday driver then why not go with the less expensive one for 400

Why spend $400 on an inferior item when $525 get's you the best? If you were paying attention (), the Jeep get's wheeled and it's already been on it's side. It was also used to attempt Waynes World Sunday after we got Goat fixed and off the trail. ...And the owner wants to do more with it.

 

[JPNGRL44]

Why spend $400 on an inferior item when $525 get's you the best? If you were paying attention (), the Jeep get's wheeled and it's already been on it's side. It was also used to attempt Waynes World Sunday after we got Goat fixed and off the trail. ...And the owner wants to do more with it.

True for it being my every day vehicle I am very hard on it. Mostly lack of experience in driving (off road that is) and a boyfriend who doesnt know how to listen to his girlfriend when i say "NO" my jeep won't make you'll only hurt it.

 

[Badger]

then get the HD model.its all well and good .i have the HD model on mine as well but not everybody is made of money Wayne

 

[waynehartwig]

then get the HD model.its all well and good .i have the HD model on mine as well but not everybody is made of money Wayne

Then you might as well do a hack n tap. But if you are going to drop $400, you might as well drop $525 and get the best. Not much difference between $400 and $525. The $400 model isn't any stronger than a hack n tap that costs $80.

 

[Meat_]

..You are welcome to stop by and look at how short mine is..

Things you don't usually hear a man say to a woman for $500 Alex

..Not much difference between $400 and $525..

Nope, only a half a tank of diesel or 125 jr. Bacon Cheeseburgers.... a buck and a quarter is a pretty good hit for a lot of people Wayne.

 

[Meat_]

ahh... Bone, you shouldn't have deleted your post, I would have laughed

 

[waynehartwig]

a buck and a quarter is a pretty good hit for a lot of people Wayne.

I guess my point is the $400 version is a waste of money. If your going to 'waste' money, then get the $80 hack n tap. If you don't like the hack n tap, then pony up the extra $'s and get the $525 version. There is absolutely no difference between the $80 version and the $400 version, other than one comes with a CV driveshaft. The ONLY benifit is you don't have to cut the shaft yourself, but you get to spend even more time ripping the TC apart to replace the shaft.... Spending even more money on oil, etc.

People ask me for advice on the best way to do something. Here is my .02. I would then advise if you don't have the $'s now, save up for 6 days, 6 months, 6 years and do it right, the first time. I've also told people you don't need to spend $'s, use what you have. For example, I actually told her not to buy a SYE, that a 4" lift and 1.25" TC drop should not require it. Fix the pinion angles, put in some quality u joints and drive it. So your way will cost her $400, plus labor, plus fluids. My way will cost her ~$60 in u joints. She already has the TC drop....And obviously well versed on changing u joints.

Here you guys are bagging on me for the $125, what about the guy a little while ago with the Rubicon, D44's and wanting to run 35" tires. You guys were telling him the D44's are junk, better upgrade to D60/14T to run those 35's. My $125 is a lot better than your $2,000 - especially when it's not necessary! I told him to use what he had and have fun.

 

[JPNGRL44]

Have to agree with wayne......... i will just keep replacing u joints until i have the cash to do it right the first time. I do however want to get it done, it would be nice to gain back the clearance lost from the TC drop.

 

[Bone Down]

ahh... Bone, you shouldn't have deleted your post, I would have laughed

it was nothing constructive

 

[waynehartwig]

Have to agree with wayne......... i will just keep replacing u joints until i have the cash to do it right the first time. I do however want to get it done, it would be nice to gain back the clearance lost from the TC drop.

Instead of getting the $6 ones at the local parts house, go down to Six States and pick up a genuine Spicer u joint. It's a little bit more money, but should last a whole lot longer. The part number you want is 5-433-1x, if you have a 1310 style u joint, most likely you do. I sell them for $19, so Six States shouldn't be too much more.

Double check your angles, too. The 1.25" TC drop might actually be causing the joints to wear faster because the angles are further off than they would be if you had no TC drop at all.

 

[JPNGRL44]

Sounds good thanks!

 

[Meat_]

..I would then advise if you don't have the $'s now, save up for 6 days, 6 months, 6 years and do it right, the first time..

I'm with ya on that one

 

[JeeperG]

if you have a 1310 style u joint, most likely you do. I sell them for $19

Got any 1310 x 1330?