Jeep Hauler opinions

[kirk86CJ]

I already have a 16 ft trailer to haul my jeep. My dad and brothers all built/paid for it. Problem is one of my brothers bought a jeep. Now we need more trailer. We have 90% decided to build another 16-18 ft trailer to haul the second jeep. I am struggling with the idea of building a big one to haul both. I figure we would need a 24 ft deck to tightly fit the cj7 and Cherokee. I think we would need 2 - 5200 lb axles and use 6" channel. I know having a 5th wheel would be ideal, but I don't look forward to building one - adds complexity, and it would add more legnth to the trailer which takes away driveway space.

Question: Does anyone have experience pulling two vehicles on a tongue pull double axle trailer? Is that too much weight? Safe?

It would cost more to build, but it would save over $100.00 every time we go on gas money for the second tow rig.

I think we could build a big one for around $2K, a 16 ft for about $1200.

Thanks
Kirk

 

[Caleb]

well, if you keep the smaller one then it would be a good idea...otherwise you are stuck with a huge trailer if you just want to take a single jeep. Pulling two jeeps on a bumber pull is done quite often, as long as its beefy enough to handle the weight then I see no reaosn not to do it...

 

[Brett]

Buy this instead:Linky :suka:

What the hell, are you a used car dealer or something??????

 

[Jay5.9L]

I already have a 16 ft trailer to haul my jeep. My dad and brothers all built/paid for it. Problem is one of my brothers bought a jeep. Now we need more trailer. We have 90% decided to build another 16-18 ft trailer to haul the second jeep. I am struggling with the idea of building a big one to haul both. I figure we would need a 24 ft deck to tightly fit the cj7 and Cherokee. I think we would need 2 - 5200 lb axles and use 6" channel. I know having a 5th wheel would be ideal, but I don't look forward to building one - adds complexity, and it would add more legnth to the trailer which takes away driveway space.

Question: Does anyone have experience pulling two vehicles on a tongue pull double axle trailer? Is that too much weight? Safe?

It would cost more to build, but it would save over $100.00 every time we go on gas money for the second tow rig.

I think we could build a big one for around $2K, a 16 ft for about $1200.

Thanks
Kirk

I hope you have something big to pull two jeeps plus trailer. Did you graduate from RHSM yet?

 

[Rusted]

I already have a 16 ft trailer to haul my jeep. My dad and brothers all built/paid for it. Problem is one of my brothers bought a jeep. Now we need more trailer. We have 90% decided to build another 16-18 ft trailer to haul the second jeep. I am struggling with the idea of building a big one to haul both. I figure we would need a 24 ft deck to tightly fit the cj7 and Cherokee. I think we would need 2 - 5200 lb axles and use 6" channel. I know having a 5th wheel would be ideal, but I don't look forward to building one - adds complexity, and it would add more legnth to the trailer which takes away driveway space.

Question: Does anyone have experience pulling two vehicles on a tongue pull double axle trailer? Is that too much weight? Safe?

It would cost more to build, but it would save over $100.00 every time we go on gas money for the second tow rig.

I think we could build a big one for around $2K, a 16 ft for about $1200.

Thanks
Kirk

reading for a different thread, I found this thread on Pirate, there are some photos of people doing exactly what you are asking about.

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=64563

 

[robrocketanski]

I have wanted to do the same. I ended up building a 16' instead for various reasons but the only real drawback I could come up with is as mentioned above, when you only need a little trailer you got a monster instead!

 

[Maverick]

Question: Does anyone have experience pulling two vehicles on a tongue pull double axle trailer? Is that too much weight? Safe?

Thanks
Kirk

Big Sarge pulls one with a ctd2500.

The trailer will weigh over 2000#, and the rigs, if they are lean, weigh 4000# each. That's an easy 10,000#, probably more.

What's your tow rig? Basically, you're gonna need something rated to pull OVER 10,000#. I'll give you a hint, it's gonna be a newer 2500 or 3500 pickup *optioned correctly*. An '01+ 2500 burb w/ 4.10s and 8.1 or an Excursion will also do it...but don't forget that most tow ratings are considering an empty rig with only the driver.

 

[robrocketanski]

my class just toured pual's performance, he is a big diesel builder- does stuff for ford, and he was describing the difference between f250 and f550 brakes.

f250 is 12" x 1" thick and f550 is 15" x 1.875" thick. that is a very big difference.

 

[bigtex]

I already have a 16 ft trailer to haul my jeep. My dad and brothers all built/paid for it. Problem is one of my brothers bought a jeep. Now we need more trailer. We have 90% decided to build another 16-18 ft trailer to haul the second jeep. I am struggling with the idea of building a big one to haul both. I figure we would need a 24 ft deck to tightly fit the cj7 and Cherokee. I think we would need 2 - 5200 lb axles and use 6" channel. I know having a 5th wheel would be ideal, but I don't look forward to building one - adds complexity, and it would add more legnth to the trailer which takes away driveway space.

Question: Does anyone have experience pulling two vehicles on a tongue pull double axle trailer? Is that too much weight? Safe?

It would cost more to build, but it would save over $100.00 every time we go on gas money for the second tow rig.

I think we could build a big one for around $2K, a 16 ft for about $1200.

Thanks
Kirk

You would difinitely need a big tow rig. As for the trailer it shouldn't be a problem. You see camp trailers that are 30+ feet. Go for it if you usually take both rigs anyway.

 

[Bart]

You would difinitely need a big tow rig. As for the trailer it shouldn't be a problem. You see camp trailers that are 30+ feet. Go for it if you usually take both rigs anyway.

Big difference between camp trailers and pulling two rigs on a tounge pull. Like has been said here (a few times) you'll need a big tow rig. I pulled a 30' boat on a triple axle trailer. Weighed about 11,500. The triple axles helped a lot. It got real old pulling it with a built Suburban. The Powerstroke and the V10 Dodge did the best. If you try pulling it with something less, you'll be going through lots of parts. I'm looking at a 30' enclosed, that will fit 2 rigs inside. It's a triple axle also. I know it's going to be everything my 2001 Powerstroke will handle when it has two rigs in it. Mostly I'll be using it for one buggy.
Bart

 

[bigtex]

Big difference between camp trailers and pulling two rigs on a tounge pull. Like has been said here (a few times) you'll need a big tow rig. I pulled a 30' boat on a triple axle trailer. Weighed about 11,500. The triple axles helped a lot. It got real old pulling it with a built Suburban. The Powerstroke and the V10 Dodge did the best. If you try pulling it with something less, you'll be going through lots of parts. I'm looking at a 30' enclosed, that will fit 2 rigs inside. It's a triple axle also. I know it's going to be everything my 2001 Powerstroke will handle when it has two rigs in it. Mostly I'll be using it for one buggy.
Bart

Camp trailer was for lenght comparison only. Obivously there would be a large wieght difference, and wind resistance difference.

 

[Hickey]

You might want to wander through this thread a bit too, the pics are at the bottom.
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=189968&highlight=tongue

 

[SAMI]

my friend Larry who i wheel with alot uses a huge trailer...i wanna say, 30-35' trailer to hual his cherokee, and his dad's TJ....it's not a fifth wheel....they've towed it with his dad's 78 Dodge diesel, forgot what size....and now his dad has(like everyone else) a brand new ctd crew cab short bed....both rigs towed no problem Moab and back afew times a year...

if you want his # to contact him lemme know...he's nice and would help you out with any questions you might have...

 

[kirk86CJ]

my friend Larry who i wheel with alot uses a huge trailer...i wanna say, 30-35' trailer to hual his cherokee, and his dad's TJ....it's not a fifth wheel....they've towed it with his dad's 78 Dodge diesel, forgot what size....and now his dad has(like everyone else) a brand new ctd crew cab short bed....both rigs towed no problem Moab and back afew times a year...

if you want his # to contact him lemme know...he's nice and would help you out with any questions you might have...

Thanks for the feedback. Just to clarify a couple things: Current truck is a '94 chev 3500 crew cab long bed with a 454 and a whipple supercharger. Next truck will a 03 dodge crew cab short bed with the cummins and a auto tranny - my dad currently is gently wearing it out until I can afford it.
Also, I am keeping my current 16 ft trailer either way, so the only time I would use the big one would be for 2 rigs.
I am worried about the weight on a tounge pull - had one whip once with a full size pickup on the trailer - would hate to have a problem with that much weight.

 

[Maverick]

Thanks for the feedback. Just to clarify a couple things: Current truck is a '94 chev 3500 crew cab long bed with a 454 and a whipple supercharger. Next truck will a 03 dodge crew cab short bed with the cummins and a auto tranny - my dad currently is gently wearing it out until I can afford it.
Also, I am keeping my current 16 ft trailer either way, so the only time I would use the big one would be for 2 rigs.
I am worried about the weight on a tounge pull - had one whip once with a full size pickup on the trailer - would hate to have a problem with that much weight.

Other than power, (stock is only 230 but I imagine the whipple takes care of business) your current tow rig is about as good as it gets, and is as stable as you're gonna find for 10,000lbs. Other rigs are just newer, and may or may not have more power, but wheelbase is wheelbase. The newer chev's are rated for 12,000lbs, and they are similar to your truck except for the stock power ratings.

How much have you towed with it?

Anyway, it won't be the same as a gooseneck, but it's doable, and safe, if you stay within your bounds. I've been thinking of doing the same thing (2 jeeps or 1 jeep, 1 popup) vs pullin' a triple.

 

[Bart]

Thanks for the feedback. Just to clarify a couple things: Current truck is a '94 chev 3500 crew cab long bed with a 454 and a whipple supercharger. Next truck will a 03 dodge crew cab short bed with the cummins and a auto tranny - my dad currently is gently wearing it out until I can afford it.
Also, I am keeping my current 16 ft trailer either way, so the only time I would use the big one would be for 2 rigs.
I am worried about the weight on a tounge pull - had one whip once with a full size pickup on the trailer - would hate to have a problem with that much weight.

Sounds like you have the truck end taken care of. As long as the axles are in the right spot and the weight is right on the trailer, you should be fine. If you add a 3rd axle you'd be even bettter.
Bart

 

[Maverick]

Sounds like you have the truck end taken care of. As long as the axles are in the right spot and the weight is right on the trailer, you should be fine. If you add a 3rd axle you'd be even bettter.
Bart

Ooohh, good one with the 3rd axle. Is your new one a 3-axle jobber? tongue or gooseneck? total weight/capacity?

I was figuring out axle placement a while back, thinking of the 2-rig trailer boogie. 30' is a long bastard, basically twice as long as most jeep trailers (16').

I wonder at what point you go from 2 5/16" ball to a pintle?

 

[Hickey]

I wonder at what point you go from 2 5/16" ball to a pintle?

I would do it on anything over 9,000 lbs.

 

[Bart]

Ooohh, good one with the 3rd axle. Is your new one a 3-axle jobber? tongue or gooseneck? total weight/capacity?

I was figuring out axle placement a while back, thinking of the 2-rig trailer boogie. 30' is a long bastard, basically twice as long as most jeep trailers (16').

I wonder at what point you go from 2 5/16" ball to a pintle?

I'm looking at 3 trailers, but only is long enough for 2 rigs. That one is 30' long inside and is a triple axle, tounge pull. It would be easily converted to a gooseneck, but the guy would give me his equalizer and the hydraulic brake set up, so I'd prolly run it that way for a while.

I think the 2 5/16s if fine for 2 rigs. Just don't know that much about the pintle.

Bart

 

[Jinx]

I realize that a goose neck is a completely different animal when it comes to pulling but just to give you an idea of what I do on a regular basis,...

We have 26 ft (20 ft deck 6 ft beaver tail) gooseneck that we can put a scrambler and a cj7 on it. It weighs a lot but I can't give you exact number of what the weight is but my dad used to pull it with a chev 1 ton dual 454.

I have inherited the towing duties since I got my CTD, it a quad cab long bed, heavy 3/4ton. I have had no problems pulling it around, I wouldn't mind a little help in slowing down, exhaust brake