lil moab and forest lake 8-27-05
- Thread starter chadschoon
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Cherokeester
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- Wellsville Utah
good pics
Nice pictures, thanks for sharing. I love the forrest lake trail it's awesome.
Nice pictures, thanks for sharing. I love the forrest lake trail it's awesome.
cruiseroutfit said:Looked familiarNorth side if Miller Hill, above Tyngs grave?
Not actually called Tyngs mine, he leased it in the later years of the canyon... If I am correct (I don't have all my research stuff here), that is the Bredemeyer mine...
Kurt, do you happen to have coordinates to that spot? I'm trying to collect all the mine waypoints, just for sh!ts and giggles.
Devin
chadschoon
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- lehi
yes it does look like you could fit through one of them, but why??? looks pretty hairy to me, that bridge does not look like it would hold someone up, and i wouldent want to fall down that hole. I wouldent do itV-DAWG said:Stuck his hand through the rebar
I may know this guy who said that unless they have fixed it since he was up there last, a person can fit pretty easily through the rebar.............
So have they fixed it?
chadschoon
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- lehi
ya that road is a piece of cake. but anyways ill go whenever. I have to go somewere wheeling every weekend or i go crazy, so let me know
- Location
- Sandy, Ut
DevinB said:
Hmmm... waypoints, I think I have a few
(literally thousands in AF ) I'll grab you the Bredemeyer location as soon as I get my laptop out.
V-DAWG
someday
- Location
- Taylorsville
95XJ said:
Goes up to the backside of Snowbird (Mineral Basin) in American Fork Canyon. It has a portion of trail people have named the Rock Garden.
Ohms
'Poser Wheeler
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- the gates of hell
Rig looks good as always Chad....Did you flop it yet?
chadschoon
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- lehi
Not yet... you wish, so that we could just tube the whole thingOhms said:
accually that is not the mineral basin trail. The start of the trail takes off behind the mines called dutchman flats. correct me if im wrong curt but I believe that is the name. I cannot remember the name of the trail though.
chad
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- Sandy, Ut
chadschoon said:
The trail Chad was on is called Miller Hill, the trail splits at the top, the North Fork heads to the mine as shown (and Tyngs grave) overlooking Mineral Basin, the South Fork hads to some of the other mines and overlooks Mary Ellen Gulch
All part of my book...
I have TONS of old pics, maps, mine info, etc of the canyon... I am just trying to find a way to fit it all in to a "trail guide". History is a big thing for me, and honestly ghost towns are the reason I got into 4x4's, I needed a way to get to old mines, etc. I want to convey this "wheeling to a destination" approach, rather than a "wheeling to find obstacles". Of course I fit under both catagories at times, and everyone has their reasoning, I want this book to inspire people to get out and explore (get out of the rig and hike to a mine, old cabin, etc).
Sorry for the partial hijack...
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- Sandy, Ut
PS Chad, did you start Miller Hill at the Dutchman or at the Pacific site?
The reason I ask, you used to be able to start Miller hill at Dutchman flats, but the trail washed out so you have to go up to the Pacific Mine and come back South to the trail... But, the Forest Service has been working to fix the washout (passable to ATV's now).
This might be an "end of the season" service project to fix the trail... A group of people with shovels and picks could fix the trail in a decent time, and it would give you two exits to the same trail and releive some traffic on the main forest road to Mineral Basin and Pole Line Pass
The reason I ask, you used to be able to start Miller hill at Dutchman flats, but the trail washed out so you have to go up to the Pacific Mine and come back South to the trail... But, the Forest Service has been working to fix the washout (passable to ATV's now).
This might be an "end of the season" service project to fix the trail... A group of people with shovels and picks could fix the trail in a decent time, and it would give you two exits to the same trail and releive some traffic on the main forest road to Mineral Basin and Pole Line Pass
chadschoon
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- lehi
I always thought that dutchmans flat was all the mines that they shut down a few years ago about a mile down the road from mineral basin and the pitsberg lake trail head. If that is dutchmans flat then that is where I started. it took me south for a while though.
cruiseroutfit said:...you used to be able to start Miller hill at Dutchman flats, but the trail washed out so you have to go up to the Pacific Mine and come back South to the trail... But, the Forest Service has been working to fix the washout (passable to ATV's now).
This might be an "end of the season" service project to fix the trail... A group of people with shovels and picks could fix the trail in a decent time, and it would give you two exits to the same trail and releive some traffic on the main forest road to Mineral Basin and Pole Line Pass
I don't think it was really ever impassable on ATV... I know I've never seen it that way. However it is VERY impassable to anything bigger, and it would take a LOT of work to change that.
Edit: If I ever get to go riding again I'll snap some pics of the bad part.
V-DAWG
someday
- Location
- Taylorsville
chadschoon said:
Then the guy that I might know who went into a mine through the rebar that looked like the pics you took, was at a different mine shaft.... :-\
Funny though how the bridge looked almost identical. I will try again to find the pics of the mine the guy I know took.
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- Sandy, Ut
Meat_ said:
No, it wasn't every passable to ATV's, I guess my wording was a bit vague... I meant that is is passable to ATV's currently (suggesting no change)
Meat_ said:
Yup & yup... I have been up there a couple times this year... and the Forest Service went along with some of the other U4 board members to check it out firsthand. They were actually trying to get an Eagle Scout project to fix it last weekend, but the kid satisfied his hours during our car removal last Tuesday (the car at the Pacific mine and the car off of Lower Major Evans Gulch road are gone
)... It is alot of work, but with 30 people (like we had at the last project, we could make alot of progress in a couple hours, and machines are not out of the question...
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- Sandy, Ut
V-DAWG said:
There are still several that are open in the canyon... but most were shut in ~95' after the FS completed their heritage study and mine closure recommendations. Many of the larger ones were rebarred to allow bat populations and future study (possibly mining). Others that had not naturally caved were filled with mine tailings (at the opening) such as the Live Yankee (now reopened to the cave-in) or blocked with cinderblock (such as the Bog Mine). All said there were at least 100 mines in the canyon area... many of which were small and never yeilded much... The canyon is still full of cool things, old cabins, old mine, tram towers, ore buckets.. etc