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Mapping the Swell.

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great scott

Well-Known Member
Location
Carbonvil/Price Utah
The Price BLM office now has a grant to build a new map of the area they over see, and they have asked a small group including my self to help them. So I am turning to you all for ideas. What would you like to see on a map that would cover most of Carbon and Emery Counties?
 
Houndoc

Houndoc

Registered User
Location
Grantsville
When we went down this spring, noticed lots of roads/trails we did not have on our maps....simply getting them on the map is my suggestion!
 
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great scott

Well-Known Member
Location
Carbonvil/Price Utah
Houndoc said:
When we went down this spring, noticed lots of roads/trails we did not have on our maps....simply getting them on the map is my suggestion!
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That's part of the bad news, many trail will be closed, but we are try both to keep them open and to map them all.
 
Fester

Fester

Active Member
I'm assuming a survey of these roads/areas be required to build this new map? Does the BLM survey these areas themselves or do they contract this work out? Or do they just use handheld type GPS coordinates....which is probably fine for mapping? I'm asking because I would love to get in on surveying for this type of mapping. Oh, and I'm a licensed surveyor.
 
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great scott

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Location
Carbonvil/Price Utah
Fester said:
I'm assuming a survey of these roads/areas be required to build this new map? Does the BLM survey these areas themselves or do they contract this work out? Or do they just use handheld type GPS coordinates....which is probably fine for mapping? I'm asking because I would love to get in on surveying for this type of mapping. Oh, and I'm a licensed surveyor.
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I know they used old maps and asked the public for input, the King Crawlers turned in as many as we could GPS. Outside of that I am not sure but that part is all but done. At this point we are naming, rating, and so on.
 
UtahFire

UtahFire

Registered User
Why is the BLM doing this again? They just released their "travel" plan closing the 400 + miles a short time ago. How did they do this travel plan without maps?
 
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great scott

Well-Known Member
Location
Carbonvil/Price Utah
UtahFire said:
Why is the BLM doing this again? They just released their "travel" plan closing the 400 + miles a short time ago. How did they do this travel plan without maps?
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They are useing the most rresent RMP that they realy havent finished yet and the map is just part of that plan.
 
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great scott

Well-Known Member
Location
Carbonvil/Price Utah
Just got out of our second meeting and here are some of the things we are attempting; all motorized routes marked, major routes (like Devils Race Track) high lighted named and numbered, major routes rated for difficulty for all three ohvs, 4X4s, ATVs, motor cycles, major route rated for senic appeal ( similar to difficulty), points of interest, and so on. Now is your time to give me some feed back.
 
EZRhino

EZRhino

KalishnaKitty
Location
Sandy, UT
I'd really like to see all closed routes on a map and labeled as such!! I'm tired of the BLM's BS. There are a lot of legitimate routes that are now closed. Such as: three roads to the San Raf river and black boxes, June's bottom, Muddy Creek through the reef...there are more. I found a route last summer that has since been washed out; would be a hell of a 5+ rated trail. It was a real road a decade ago; went to several mines complete with buildings, structures, etc. Now it is in one of the WSA's and the road was closed, and has since washed out. It's an unnamed canyon located here: http://www.topozone.com/map.asp?z=12&n=4304061.00011069&e=546930.000000002&datum=nad83

Cool hike, anyways. Never should have been included in the WSA in my opinon.

EZ
 
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great scott

Well-Known Member
Location
Carbonvil/Price Utah
The trails are already mapped its more just labeling them. But I wouldn't count on the closed trails showing up seeing as how the BLM is doing the map, all though it would be a good shot to the ribs.
 
offroaddave

offroaddave

It's just one term!
Location
sunset
EZRhino said:
I'd really like to see all closed routes on a map and labeled as such!! I'm tired of the BLM's BS. There are a lot of legitimate routes that are now closed. Such as: three roads to the San Raf river and black boxes, June's bottom, Muddy Creek through the reef...there are more. I found a route last summer that has since been washed out; would be a hell of a 5+ rated trail. It was a real road a decade ago; went to several mines complete with buildings, structures, etc. Now it is in one of the WSA's and the road was closed, and has since washed out. It's an unnamed canyon located here: http://www.topozone.com/map.asp?z=12&n=4304061.00011069&e=546930.000000002&datum=nad83

Cool hike, anyways. Never should have been included in the WSA in my opinon.

EZ
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Does anyone remember vlj.com?
If not, I have all the maps he had on his site. ;)
If anyone wants them let me know.
He mailed them to the BLM (by the way) to make sure they knew these were trails that have existed for four decades.
 
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Meat_

Banned
Location
Lehi
offroaddave said:
Does anyone remember vlj.com?
If not, I have all the maps he had on his site. ;)
If anyone wants them let me know.
He mailed them to the BLM (by the way) to make sure they knew these were trails that have existed for four decades.
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I like maps....
 
offroaddave

offroaddave

It's just one term!
Location
sunset
PM your addy. I'll send them out as soon as i can.
vlj, marked them all w/ trails his dad took him on for years, any ways,you got it.
sweet ridin for atv's and decent wheelin for fullsized
 
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Meat_

Banned
Location
Lehi
offroaddave said:
PM your addy. I'll send them out as soon as i can.
vlj, marked them all w/ trails his dad took him on for years, any ways,you got it.
sweet ridin for atv's and decent wheelin for fullsized
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email or snailmail? not sure how many MB's we're talking about....
 
offroaddave

offroaddave

It's just one term!
Location
sunset
Meat_ said:
email or snailmail? not sure how many MB's we're talking about....
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I'm not that good with the scanner so I'd rather just spend the money on a stamp or two.
I think we have a color copier @ work, so snail works for me.
or you could tutor me on scanning, and that might work out better so I'd have them archived. maybe I'll just try that.
It's exactly eighteen pages (8x 11).
 
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