Mlm's

[Caleb]

if i am a cliche so be it. all i know is the checks come in they clear and my bank account is getting bigger. i know that not all of them work, but if i am making money in them why would i not do it? that is ok right? i mean i am not trying to get any of you to do it, just wanted so input and it looks like a lot of people have either tried and failed at them or are just turned off to them. as for me the two MLM's or Buisnesses that i am working are making money and i dont have to do alot for them.

Like I said, I really didn't mean it as a stab to you but that post is the catch phrases they drill in to your head at ANY mlm. I've done (and yes, I was making decent money doing it) mlm's before. I traveled around the country going to seminars and rallies for mlms. I've also been approached about several others. The whole idea about mlm's rubs me the wrong way. The only way you make money is to have people below you, the only way to get people below you is to bug (harass) people that could care less. I've seen many fights start between very good friends and even families over mlms. Even if you don't upset or seemingly offend someone by approaching them, in reality they will always remember that conversation you had with them. Any future conversations with them will likely be a bit awkward.

Then, do some googling on the company(ies) you are working with (Primerica is a huge one in this category). You will find dirt on these companies that make Enron seem like an ethical company.

Again, none of this is to take a stab at you and I hope you don't take it personally. Take it from someone that's "been there, done that" in the long run, it's not worth it.

 

[SICK99TJ]

call it what you want. you can either draw it staight across or straight down either way it gets bigg at the bottom..

 

[Caleb]

isn't every buisness out there a little like a "pyramid" i mean you have a president, then ceo, coo, cfo, board of directors and managers and then their is everybody else.. and who is the one getting rich...Oh thats right its the one at the top

NO! Every company in america is not a pyramid scheme. Their organizational layout is a pyramid (or is that what you mean by pyramid scheme? ) but you don't make more money in a traditional business by signing-up more people under you. That' a pyramid scheme.

 

[burke]

whats the point of your post? seems like a passive-aggressive ploy to get people asking how they can make a few bucks.

 

[Caleb]

whats the point of your post? seems like a passive-aggressive ploy to get people asking how they can make a few bucks.

hmmm, it seems that my statement above stands true the only way to make money doing these mlms is to bug (harass) people that could care less.

I do agree with your post completely!

 

[burke]

hmmm, it seems that my statement above stands true the only way to make money doing these mlms is to bug (harass) people that could care less.

I do agree with your post completely!

Your exactly right about taking advantage of friends and family with these ploys. People seem to be able to shelve their integrity for the opportunity to make $$$. if you are selling a product that isn't really a product but just a means to further your self interest/$$ is wrong.

 

[cruiseroutfit]

I've lost good friends over MLM's, meaning they've hit me up about getting in on their MLM and I choose no longer to be a friend with them. They are always relatively short lived and the money makers have the silver tongues and seem to not mind f**ing their own grandmother out of a few bucks so they can sell her a herbal device she didn't seem to need before.

Its the male gender equivalent of a Pampered Chef party that women throw. The easiest way to find your shallow friends is to wait for them to invite you to "get in on a hot deal" MLM or they invite your wife to sample lotion.

 

[Bart]

I had a boss once (trucking asphalt) that assigned work projects based on whether you joined his Amway business or not. The guys that played along got jobs close to home. I got stuck in Kemmerrer Wyo. There's no amount of money great enough to get me to sign up for any MLM. If it's working for you Riley, that's great, but ... blah blah *&^%$*@ blah, they're not for me.

 

[Kiel]

I think the thing that always rubbed me the wrong way about them, was that you pretty much knew you might be screwing your friends, (the people your trying to recruit) and to me real friends aren't worth making money off of and putting a good friendship at risk. If you were really their friends why would you? And no I have never been involved with a pyramid scheme

 

[SICK99TJ]

The whole point of this post was to ask people what they think about them. see if anyone else has had success or not. i have not said what the new buisness is, i have not asked anyone to join or if they would be interested, nothing even close to that. i dont appreciate the under tone and feel that if you dont want to say something relevant meaning a first hand, hey i did it and it sucks or something like that, then shut the f@$k up.

as far i am concerned this post did not do anything constructive at all. if the mods want to close it out or me to delete this i will. i find it funny how quick everyone on this board jumps peoples ****. all i was trying to do is start a good thread that people could actually debate talk about, not talk down to about how they think that i am a shallow friend "you dont know me" Rant Off.

 

[SICK99TJ]

Your exactly right about taking advantage of friends and family with these ploys. People seem to be able to shelve their integrity for the opportunity to make $$$. if you are selling a product that isn't really a product but just a means to further your self interest/$$ is wrong.

one last thing i dont try and do anything with my friends and or family with anything $$$ again jumping to conclusions! i never ask anyone about how they make their money or feed their family, all of mine are referrals so they know exactly what i do and what i am going to talk to them about.

 

[solidfrontaxle]

The whole point of this post was to ask people what they think about them. see if anyone else has had success or not. i have not said what the new buisness is, i have not asked anyone to join or if they would be interested, nothing even close to that. i dont appreciate the under tone and feel that if you dont want to say something relevant meaning a first hand, hey i did it and it sucks or something like that, then shut the f@$k up.

as far i am concerned this post did not do anything constructive at all. if the mods want to close it out or me to delete this i will. i find it funny how quick everyone on this board jumps peoples ****. all i was trying to do is start a good thread that people could actually debate talk about, not talk down to about how they think that i am a shallow friend "you dont know me" Rant Off.

I think this thread was very informative, and actually pretty hilarious.

You wanted to know people's experiences with them and they told you.

No need to close or delete it it.

 

[ID Bronco]

I tried a few when I was younger, I didn't do well. I hated most of them. Ie: Quickstar, jerky stuff, but I really liked ACN and thought it was a good company. I just didn't have the gumption to harrass folks on the weekly calls (that is exactly what it is). I do know some good people who made money with it though. I have turned down about a dozen in the last four or five years. No thanks is my reply and if they are your friend that will be enough.

More power to you if it sits well with you, word of mouth is the best advertising. I actually have a Pimerica policy. I was shopping for some at the time and a friend of mine was training with them. His upper level guy did the presentation with my buddy (he was a douche, typical pushy mlm guy), but for my freind I bought it. Then he didn't stay in it so the guy I don't really care for gets the commission. Good rate though.

 

[Caleb]

The whole point of this post was to ask people what they think about them. see if anyone else has had success or not. i have not said what the new buisness is, i have not asked anyone to join or if they would be interested, nothing even close to that. i dont appreciate the under tone and feel that if you dont want to say something relevant meaning a first hand, hey i did it and it sucks or something like that, then shut the f@$k up.

as far i am concerned this post did not do anything constructive at all. if the mods want to close it out or me to delete this i will. i find it funny how quick everyone on this board jumps peoples ****. all i was trying to do is start a good thread that people could actually debate talk about, not talk down to about how they think that i am a shallow friend "you dont know me" Rant Off.

Calm down, no one attacked you (or atleast I don't think any of it was intended to) and you asked about people's experiences with them. Experiences were given, most were bad experiences, maybe it's not the reaction you were expecting? Get used to it because this is a very common reaction to MLMs. If you want to be successful with an MLM, go over to Asia (no I'm not telling you leave ), they are worse than Utah County with MLMs.

Oh, and if you want to delete this thread, that's up to you but I see no reason that we would moderate it.

 

[cruiseroutfit]

Sorry if you comments caught you off guard or possible offended you. You asked for experiences and I posted mine, shallow friends calling me for the first time in months to sit down over lunch and chat about a new business opportunity Yours could be 100% different, I don't know. This is a really common reaction to MLM's imo, you'll find there are either those that were sold on it and lost money (or time) or there are those that felt scammed by the whole experience, the only ones that seem to stay in it for years are those that are at the top already working on the next one. If you make money at it, feel your being ethical and are content with the job details, have at it, wouldn't argue against that.

 

[SAMI]

I'll weigh in my feelings..

I spent a bit of time around a group of MLM goers. I thought they were all blinded and misled. I saw firsthand the awkwardness between MLM'ers and non-MLM belivers in what should have been a close knit community of LDS members(Ward i served in for 9 months in FL)..

GENERALLY SPEAKING**, they seemed above everyone else.. To those that were not interested, they never paid anymore attention to you. That's just wrong. Anyone who sees a person as a money sign can kiss my ass.

I remember one statement that crossed a line with me.. "The reason the LDS Church is so successful, is because they copied the way we contact and follow-up on leads." Um, ok retard.

There were *afew* people in that MLM that were pretty cool, level headed people.. But man, some were so pathetic.. Pictures of million dollar luxury boats, and lear jets all over their houses.. Motivation phrases and reminders, that to me seemed more of downers because expectations were set ridiculously out of sight..

-Jason

 

[SICK99TJ]

i am not affended with anyones expeirences that they want to share. i am mad at all of the digs at character. if you feel that it was your shallow friends and are no longer in good with them ok, just dont make a general statement implying that we are all shallow. personally if one of my friends was making good money and wanted to share how i would listen, knowing that it was up to me. again just my opinion.

i understand that this is a touchy subject and not everyone has a good expeirence. that is why i brought it out it seems like there are alot of them out right now and thought it would be a good topic. i myself have not had success with a couple i tried 6-7 years ago, so i know that feeling of being scammed or what not. i still think that if i would have done them like a job i would have made money at them but i did not.

 

[SICK99TJ]

I'll weigh in my feelings..

I spent a bit of time around a group of MLM goers. I thought they were all blinded and misled. I saw firsthand the awkwardness between MLM'ers and non-MLM belivers in what should have been a close knit community of LDS members(Ward i served in for 9 months in FL)..

GENERALLY SPEAKING**, they seemed above everyone else.. To those that were not interested, they never paid anymore attention to you. That's just wrong. Anyone who sees a person as a money sign can kiss my ass.

I remember one statement that crossed a line with me.. "The reason the LDS Church is so successful, is because they copied the way we contact and follow-up on leads." Um, ok retard.

There were *afew* people in that MLM that were pretty cool, level headed people.. But man, some were so pathetic.. Pictures of million dollar luxury boats, and lear jets all over their houses.. Motivation phrases and reminders, that to me seemed more of downers because expectations were set ridiculously out of sight..

-Jason

case in point actuall expeirence. thanks for waying in...

 

[Greg]

Money itself is a touchy subject, MLM's have such a bad rap that you have a lot of personal history to fight against. I'm glad it's working for you Riley, hope it continues to do so! Just don't hit me up...

 

[SICK99TJ]

Money itself is a touchy subject, MLM's have such a bad rap that you have a lot of personal history to fight against. I'm glad it's working for you Riley, hope it continues to do so! Just don't hit me up...

not a chance you are too far away.