Moab heads up

[Brett]

Here's my solution

 

[Stephen]

Then why are they not doing this year round? Why are they targetting people during Safari, but once it's over, they ignore things?

As stated before, do you fish in a lake with few fish? Also, if you're going to make an impact, do it when people notice. If people get pulled over during Safari, they'll remember and they'll tell their friends. Then when they go to Moab at a different time of year, they'll have that in mind.

 

[wheelin4me]

So lets say I've got my bead-locks on for the weekend which now puts me in violation of the law, Should I get a ticket. Now don't get me wronge I feel that their needs to be some kind of control for those who will drink and drive or steal and damage other peoples property. But the event brings much needed cash to our state and to the city of Moab and we don't want to piss off the 99% of good people and make them not want to come back to our state. All Im saying is they don't need to over do it with the little petty things and take care of the real problems.

Peace out
Don

 

[Bart]

My guess would be they might overlook beadlocks over flares that don't cover a tire, mud flaps, seat belts, and working lights. JMHO.

 

[bobmed]

I was down last Sunday and Monday and most of the UHP were on Highway 6. I saw a few people pulled over in moab, a couple by Moab PD and some by UHP but I also saw a lot of people that could have been pulled over that weren't.

 

[Herzog]

Pretty stupid, especially most of the rigs that I see down here in no way going to pass any inspection in Utah. What are they going to do about all of the out of state rigs, especially the CO. and TX. rigs that are more than plentiful down here?

Safety my ass. Money festival more like it.

If they want to improve safety... they need to pull over all the drunk college / high school kids and leave us wheelers alone.

 

[BroncoMama]

Pretty stupid, especially most of the rigs that I see down here in no way going to pass any inspection in Utah. What are they going to do about all of the out of state rigs, especially the CO. and TX. rigs that are more than plentiful down here?

Safety my ass. Money festival more like it.

If they want to improve safety... they need to pull over all the drunk college / high school kids and leave us wheelers alone.

My sentiments exactly.

 

[Kris K]

What are they going to do about all of the out of state rigs, especially the CO. and TX. rigs that are more than plentiful down here?

Safety my ass. Money festival more like it.

If they want to improve safety... they need to pull over all the drunk college / high school kids and leave us wheelers alone.

The out of state rigs will get there tickets.

I agree Grand County will make a hell of a lot of money. Hey look at it this way it's going back to the community.

So how are they suppost to know if there drunk?? You have to stop them to find out.

 

[Kris K]

Pretty stupid, especially most of the rigs that I see down here in no way going to pass any inspection in Utah.

I guess we found are reason for the UHP being there.

 

[bobmed]

after 35 years of driving I've learned it's not how you drive so much as what you are driving that gets you pulled over the most. The opinion of the one pulling you over as to what looks legal or safe and sometimes what they think is your ability to pay a lawyer.

 

[Herzog]

I guess we found are reason for the UHP being there.

Well then they better give every f$#$'n vehicle a ticket that enters this valley.

 

[Kris K]

Well then they better give every f$#$'n vehicle a ticket that enters this valley.

I believe they will try and, pull over as many as possable. There really gearing up for this.

Also every f$#$'n rig not street legal better not be on the roads. Inless they want a ticket.

 

[Herzog]

I want to know who got their panties in a bunch over these minor offenses in the first place.

Why is it such a large focus now? What are the statistics of vehicle wrecks & injuries related to CO, TX and other states that are not so strict with these dinky ass laws? And within those statistics, how many of the vehicles were modified?

I'm not taking anything personal here. I'm not illegal, with the exception of no mud flaps on our cherokee. I trailer the buggy everywhere and it is registered for offroad use. I just think this whole thing is getting out of hand.

I mean, what's next? I got yelled at because the tint on my dodge was within 3 whole f'n percent of legal. Screw that.

 

[notajeep]

I got pulled over on sunday evening on the way back from upper helldorado, back roads in Moab near the hospital by a Moab PO. (My truck is not currently registered.) He asked to see my insurancem and told me that he would impound my truck if he saw it out again this week. He didn't even ask to see my drivers liscence.
Funny thing is, I passed him on Kane creek blvd going the other way, no way that he could have seen that my tags were expired. I have been driving with the same setup for 1 year here in moab with ZERO LEO problems.
Interesting that just this week that they seem to care about....
Dan

 

[Lifelong Jeeper]

Fishing...Why do you think on new years there is an increased patrol for drunk driving? Because there is more alcohol abuse then than normal. Of course they are going to have more focus on illegal behavior (drinking, speeding, drug use etc.) and illegal rigs (flaps, flares, body panels, etc.) during EJS. Yes ticket writing is a revenue source for either the county or law enforcement agency. Why shouldn’t it be? Fines are designed to, more than anything, deter someone from inappropriate behavior. If they CHOOSE to ignore the law then they can be fined. The government will use those fines according to their needs and discretion. An accountable person will realize that they chose to act contrary to the law and while you can choose what you want to do, you cannot choose the consequence.

As for me? No I'm not fully legal either. I don't have full coverage w/ my flares, don't have mud flaps, and have a cracked windshield. I realize that I am a target driving down the road so I choose not to draw additional attention to myself by speeding or driving erratically. I also know that if I get caught and ticketed it because I chose not to comply to laws/rules that I am breaking. I can only blame myself; whether I agree with the law or not.

Utah realizes the huge amount of tourism dollars that come from EJS and other such events, but they also have to uphold the law. That is their job and whether we like it or not we are safer as a public whole because of it. Do you want to test it? Drive your buggy down the streets of West Valley City, Utah and see how long you last before the WVCPD is all over you. Moab PD is absolutely more lenient to us Jeepers that what you might find elsewhere. Be appreciative to them for it, responsible in your actions and as obedient to the law that you can (or choose to be) and we all might be able to continue to enjoy EJS.

 

[Tacoma]

Wow, Herzog on the warpath. You don't see that every day!

I agree wholeheartedly. What I object to is the money-hungry mentality of "crackdowns". It bothers me. It's absolute BS to wait until EJS to start STRICTLY enforcing the law. Sure does keep us all safe though. Pfft.

 

[Lifelong Jeeper]

Wow, Herzog on the warpath. You don't see that every day!

I agree wholeheartedly. What I object to is the money-hungry mentality of "crackdowns". It bothers me. It's absolute BS to wait until EJS to start STRICTLY enforcing the law. Sure does keep us all safe though. Pfft.

I can appreciate what you and others have said regarding the crack downs. However, the thought ocurred to me, Would we want them to be this strict all year long? I know I wouldn't.

 

[Lifelong Jeeper]

I want to know who got their panties in a bunch over these minor offenses in the first place.

Why is it such a large focus now?

I don't have anything to back this up but wonder if our sport and offroading community aren't focused upon because we aren't wanted. They are shutting down trails and obstacles at a rate faster that ever before around the state and nation. Huge amounts of lobbying money is thrown at our state from all around the nation (especially from California and the east coast) to "protect" our environment and states resources. Every TV commercial out there anymore has "go green" undertones or even blatant throw it in your face environmentalism. With that kind of focus doesn't it make sense that we are being overly scrutinized and persecuted? That is the basis of my thoughts in my previous post. If we keep our noses clean and play nice in the sandbox by obeying rules hopefully our public perception will be improved and trail closure won't be as much in the white hot focus light.

By the way, anybody who really looks into "Global Warming" and studies what the claims are will find that it is a total hoax. Dig a little and see what I'm talking about and don't just take what the media says to be gospel truth.

Now to clarify, just because I believe that Global Warming is a hoax does not mean that I think we shouldn't tread lightly and responsibly use our public lands and wilderness areas. I am all about that stuff and think we all should be as involved as possible. At a minimum join U4WDA today if you haven't already.

 

[DevinB]

The out of state rigs will get there tickets.

I thought they can't force out of state rigs to conform to our laws if they're visiting? That's absurd if they can. I understand that the cops will probably still give out tickets, knowing the offender will just send the fine money rather than coming back to challenge the ticket. But it's an absolutely ridiculous practice, definately a pathetic attempt to get "free" money.

 

[Kris K]

I thought they can't force out of state rigs to conform to our laws if they're visiting? That's absurd if they can. I understand that the cops will probably still give out tickets, knowing the offender will just send the fine money rather than coming back to challenge the ticket. But it's an absolutely ridiculous practice, definately a pathetic attempt to get "free" money.

The State of Utah has laws if you want to travel on the road here then you have to fallow the laws here, What if the speed limit was 90 in Nevada but only 75 here in Utah can you go 90 if your from Nevada? Don't think so.