Political Moving to that Socialist Utopia, Italy

[Spork]

I think it's kind of funny the who will pick our vegetables mindset. What if I'm a citizen and pick vegetables for a living? Before Joe opened up the border who picked vegetables? Does everyone that came across the border pick vegetables? I have looked at the price of vegetables and I'm quite sure it is high enough we could pay someone to legally pick them, I don't feel like I'm paying slave labor prices for my vegetables.

As for buying a house for a dollar in Italy... What do you have to do to get it livable? What kind of bureaucracy are you going to have to go through to live there? Will you be picking vegetables when you get there?

 

[02SE]

I think it's kind of funny the who will pick our vegetables mindset. What if I'm a citizen and pick vegetables for a living? Before Joe opened up the border who picked vegetables? Does everyone that came across the border pick vegetables? I have looked at the price of vegetables and I'm quite sure it is high enough we could pay someone to legally pick them, I don't feel like I'm paying slave labor prices for my vegetables.

As for buying a house for a dollar in Italy... What do you have to do to get it livable? What kind of bureaucracy are you going to have to go through to live there? Will you be picking vegetables when you get there?

The houses they showed in a mainstream media (I believe it was NBC) story I watched relating to this, were in small, remote villages where Italians had moved away, leaving abandoned houses. The houses themselves looked like good candidates for being demolished, and starting over from the ground up. Not exactly the windfall some would like to believe.

As I said, my neighbors love to go back and visit their family and homeland every couple years, but they are always grateful to come home, and are very glad to be Americans. The neighbors have stated that Hotels, etc have Air Conditioning, but very few Italians, especially those living in older buildings, do. The cost of electricity and energy overall, is a big factor in that.

 

[Stephen]

Don't forget, that Italy is run by literal FASCISTS, just like the US now! So factor that into your desire of socialized healthcare, better schools, and more freedoms...

Yes, Italy's new prime minister is really a fascist: The O.G. kind

Giorgia Meloni's entire career has been on the far-right fringe, surrounded by Mussolini's political heirs.

www.salon.com

(I'm being sarcastic, Meloni isn't a fascist in the same way that Trump isn't a fascist and Harris wasn't a Communist. Meloni is a lot better looking that Trump, though...)

 

[Cody]

Fwiw, for culinary reasons alone I wouldn't pick Italy.

 

[Herzog]

Fwiw, for culinary reasons alone I wouldn't pick Italy.

How dare you

 

[Kevin B.]

no public land as a massive downside

You're not wrong, but the one upside to this, at least in northern Europe, is allemansrattan - every man's land. Private landowners don't have the right to stop you from crossing or using their land, as long as you're not doing anything that deprives them of their own use.