I just seen this on the UROC board and had to reply. I think that some of the local team should reply. Either for the wall your not. I think the sport need them what do you guys think. maybe some fans can give there input to.
I will probably add my $.02 later but I think we view it as a safety and vehicle maintenance concern. Some ideas have been propsed to make things more favorable.
I will start with what I added over there:
As far as I am concerned, the rules are a contract between the promoter and the competitor. That means the promoter (in this case UROC) needs to hold thier end of the deal. We are rockcrawling here folks. UROC should not drop back up points and make "penalty free" zones to encourage teams to repeatidly hit death climbs and smash up thier rigs. This is NOT an exhibition.[/quote]
From what I have read in the UROC 2004 rules on page 2 of 12 of the safety rules .
# 5 That the driver or any other person (s) in a vehicle participating in any UROC event may chose to bypass any obstacle and, therefore, assumes all risk and liability, as indicated.
# 2 on the same page That he or she has at all time, while riding in a vehicle participating in an event, wear his or her respective seat and shoulder belt and helmet.
Now is it up to UROC to look and see if we are wearing are seat belts right? I don't think so, they have made the rules and we the teams should fellow them for are own safety don’t, you guys think? I watch NASCAR almost every weekend and when the drive get into his car, he put is belt on and then a crew member come and make sure that they are done up right. So if it is up to the drivers of NASCAR why don’t we do the same in are sport? it is for are safety! and if we don't fellow the safety rules then UROC should hand down point
For the death climbs you are talking about . Like the rule says you don't have to do any course you don't like our fill safe doing. So how can any team put this on UROC back? We all got into a extreme sport and that is what it is coming to, I hope for the fans it gets harder and the show get better. Look at Motor cross racing 10 years ago, it was on the TV all most every weekend now all you see is free style motor cross and they are make a lot of money doing what some said was impossible to do, and are getting hurt and crash there bikes.
If we all look at these climbs as a death climb then are sport will just stay a small sport with promoters going broke and no fan turn out and yes many team will go broke right a long with some promoter to but that has been happening in racing for a long time. Yes we as team spend a lot of are money fix are rig after every event but that is just like any other racing sport out there. We totaled are rig at the last PRO event in UT it was not UROC that did it, your the course. We knew what could happen if we tried it and it did. Know we have come back to the shop and are building a new rig for those type of courses, because when it come down to it that is what the fan want to see. Time are changing in are sport and I hope for the best. Some of you guys and ladies are going to think that I am **** up for posting this but I have been in the sport for more than four years and other off-road sport for another eight years.
there will be a death in are sport some day soon and I am sorry to say that because many of you guys and ladies are my good friends, but look at any other motor sport our extreme sport, there as been many death. For UROC you need to make the safety rules for the type of course you are making use to run a handown the point to everyone that doesn't fellow them right. For are rig we are going to have to build better rig to take the crash. Maybe UROC should look at some chassis and mandate how they are to be built for these type of course’s.
Just my two cents
Man this maybe the first time I have should up for UROC
Wild Bill
team 38
I will probably add my $.02 later but I think we view it as a safety and vehicle maintenance concern. Some ideas have been propsed to make things more favorable.
I will start with what I added over there:
As far as I am concerned, the rules are a contract between the promoter and the competitor. That means the promoter (in this case UROC) needs to hold thier end of the deal. We are rockcrawling here folks. UROC should not drop back up points and make "penalty free" zones to encourage teams to repeatidly hit death climbs and smash up thier rigs. This is NOT an exhibition.[/quote]
From what I have read in the UROC 2004 rules on page 2 of 12 of the safety rules .
# 5 That the driver or any other person (s) in a vehicle participating in any UROC event may chose to bypass any obstacle and, therefore, assumes all risk and liability, as indicated.
# 2 on the same page That he or she has at all time, while riding in a vehicle participating in an event, wear his or her respective seat and shoulder belt and helmet.
Now is it up to UROC to look and see if we are wearing are seat belts right? I don't think so, they have made the rules and we the teams should fellow them for are own safety don’t, you guys think? I watch NASCAR almost every weekend and when the drive get into his car, he put is belt on and then a crew member come and make sure that they are done up right. So if it is up to the drivers of NASCAR why don’t we do the same in are sport? it is for are safety! and if we don't fellow the safety rules then UROC should hand down point
For the death climbs you are talking about . Like the rule says you don't have to do any course you don't like our fill safe doing. So how can any team put this on UROC back? We all got into a extreme sport and that is what it is coming to, I hope for the fans it gets harder and the show get better. Look at Motor cross racing 10 years ago, it was on the TV all most every weekend now all you see is free style motor cross and they are make a lot of money doing what some said was impossible to do, and are getting hurt and crash there bikes.
If we all look at these climbs as a death climb then are sport will just stay a small sport with promoters going broke and no fan turn out and yes many team will go broke right a long with some promoter to but that has been happening in racing for a long time. Yes we as team spend a lot of are money fix are rig after every event but that is just like any other racing sport out there. We totaled are rig at the last PRO event in UT it was not UROC that did it, your the course. We knew what could happen if we tried it and it did. Know we have come back to the shop and are building a new rig for those type of courses, because when it come down to it that is what the fan want to see. Time are changing in are sport and I hope for the best. Some of you guys and ladies are going to think that I am **** up for posting this but I have been in the sport for more than four years and other off-road sport for another eight years.
there will be a death in are sport some day soon and I am sorry to say that because many of you guys and ladies are my good friends, but look at any other motor sport our extreme sport, there as been many death. For UROC you need to make the safety rules for the type of course you are making use to run a handown the point to everyone that doesn't fellow them right. For are rig we are going to have to build better rig to take the crash. Maybe UROC should look at some chassis and mandate how they are to be built for these type of course’s.
Just my two cents
Man this maybe the first time I have should up for UROC
Wild Bill
team 38
