Obama's lost brother

[Cherokeester]

I liked Clintons policies on:

Integrity-"I did not have sexual relations with that woman"
Honesty-He actually stole items from the white house.
Impeachment- Oh, that's right, he was impeached. I forgot about that.
Healthcare - It would have been a disaster, just like Hillary's plan.

As far as Obama goes I agree with the o.p., If you have family in need, help em out. Especially if you make 5,000,000 a year and your bro makes 12. I think you need to be a pretty big ass to visit him in a hut and then leave.

 

[Tacoma]

7) The 1998 fiscal year ended with a federal budget surplus of $70 billion, the first surplus in decades.

That means his administration taxed us too much in 1997.

You drink the KoolAid, gulp by gulp.

 

[phatfoto]

Everyone says that experience matters, Obama has none. Neither did GWB... Wanna repeat that? I don't care for Mccain that much either. But he's been around the block and doesn't associate with KNOWN domestic terrorists.

Otherwise, watch the two of them talk without the teleprompters. I find it hard to believe that Obama received a quality education at Harvard. And yes, Mccain is a skilled politician. But Obama is an unskilled one that just isn't fully cooked yet. If he loses, they'll just chuck him back in the oven and in 3 years he'll be just the fresh turkey everyone thinks they want. And no, the above reference has NOTHING to do with skin color.

I also don't like the meme that if I don't vote for Obama it means I'm a racist. Damn, how far we are sinking as a country. Where the hell did the word MEME come from?

 

[Brett]

Everyone says that experience matters, Obama has none. Neither did GWB... Wanna repeat that? I don't care for Mccain that much either. But he's been around the block and doesn't associate with KNOWN domestic terrorists.

Otherwise, watch the two of them talk without the teleprompters. I find it hard to believe that Obama received a quality education at Harvard. And yes, Mccain is a skilled politician. But Obama is an unskilled one that just isn't fully cooked yet. If he loses, they'll just chuck him back in the oven and in 3 years he'll be just the fresh turkey everyone thinks they want. And no, the above reference has NOTHING to do with skin color.

I also don't like the meme that if I don't vote for Obama it means I'm a racist. Damn, how far we are sinking as a country. Where the hell did the word MEME come from/

What the hell does meme even mean?

 

[waynehartwig]

What the hell does meme even mean?

It's what kids say.... me me me me me me Meaning me first!




Honestly, I have no idea either

 

[kbjames]

That means his administration taxed us too much in 1997.

You drink the KoolAid, gulp by gulp.

Tacoma,

Nice spin attempt, perhaps you shoulda been a politician yourself!!!

Still curious to hear what George W's bright ideas have been in his 8 years. How about his lame "We need to put a man on Mars" routine. Talk about your bad JFK rip-offs.

 

[Tacoma]

It's not spin... government is funded by taxes. If there is a surplus, it means too much money was taken in, because Clinton never cut anything meaningful. Couple jobs here and there to try and look good.

That you defend the Clinton administration 8 years out is more telling than anything else.

 

[waynehartwig]

It's not spin... government is funded by taxes. If there is a surplus, it means too much money was taken in, because Clinton never cut anything meaningful. Couple jobs here and there to try and look good.

That you defend the Clinton administration 8 years out is more telling than anything else.

I don't recall so this is a valid question, did he increase taxes to come up with the surplus?

 

[Tacoma]

Hell, I don't know. It was 10 years ago!

I remember paying more from '92 on.

 

[kbjames]

Once again, not surprised to see the spin.

Got this straight off the U.S. Treasury site:

The Taxpayer Relief Act of 1997 made additional changes to the tax code providing a modest tax cut. The centerpiece of the 1997 Act was a significant new tax benefit to certain families with children through the Per Child Tax credit. The truly significant feature of this tax relief, however, was that the credit was refundable for many lower-income families. That is, in many cases the family paid a "negative" income tax, or received a credit in excess of their pre-credit tax liability. Though the tax system had provided for individual tax credits before, such as the Earned Income Tax credit, the Per Child Tax credit began a new trend in federal tax policy. Previously tax relief was generally given in the form of lower tax rates or increased deductions or exemptions. The 1997 Act really launched the modern proliferation of individual tax credits and especially refundable credits that are in essence spending programs operating through the tax system.

So in 1997 Clinton introduces a tax cut, yet in 1998 we have a surplus based on increased taxes. I think its time for you guys to turn off Rush Limbaugh and does some research on your own.

Tacoma,

By claiming if the gov't has excess money then it must mean they over taxed is a page straight out of the book of the former USSR. Focus on revenue-side only with no consideration towards how costs are handled....thats very nice accounting philopshy on your part!!

 

[RuggedH2]

Clinton tax cut.........

Before the end of Clinton's first term the American people voted out the Democrats that had ruled Congress for 40 years!

The Republicans took control of both houses of Congress in the Republican revolution that put Newt Gingrich in as speaker. Those tax cuts were not Clinton's....... talk about spin. Those were forced down his throat by Congress and public opinion!

At least we see why you have sympathy for Obama. Keep drinking the Kool-aide you might even find a way to vote for him eventually.

Say whatever you want.......spin whatever you want. I don't listen to Rush ever. My family doesn't work the way Obama's does.

If you don't see anything wrong with a Harvard educated, millionaire brother, not helping (hell, not lifting a finger to help) his own family who is living on $12 a year. You can justify anything. Maybe even believe this same guy is looking out for you.

 

[kbjames]

For Petes sake people...enough of the rhetoric and crappola opinions.

If you want to find out if Obama is your man or not at least go to his website and look at his stances on the issues. http://www.barackobama.com/issues/

Personally, I'm not voting for him because I don't agree with him on most issues , not because he has a brother living in BFE Africa somewhere.

Rhugged,

Apparently you skipped class during 4th grade when they talked about reading comprehension. To refresh your memory, I'll repost my prior comments in this thread....I've even bolded the bits to take note of.

So if all those people were pissed off at Clinton, then how in the hell did he get voted back into office by a comfortable 9-10% margin? Hmmm, how could this be?

And for the record, I never voted for Clinton in either election, but sure as hell would vote for him over any of the clowns we've had to pick from over the last 8 years.

 

[RuggedH2]

Rhugged,

Apparently you skipped class during 4th grade when they talked about reading comprehension. To refresh your memory, I'll repost my prior comments in this thread....I've even bolded the bits to take note of.

Apparently reading comprehension owns you also. Let me bold for you.

"Keep drinking the Kool-aide you might even find a way to vote for him eventually. "

 

[kbjames]

Apparently reading comprehension owns you also. Let me bold for you.

"Keep drinking the Kool-aide you might even find a way to vote for him eventually. "

Lol...well can't say hell would freeze over first, but certainly he's a long shot to get my vote.

Fortunately for us, living in Utah makes the presidential vote thing a non-issue with our current electoral college system. I think there are a few interesting state and local races/issues to vote on though.

 

[Tacoma]

KBJAMES, you've got a pretty interesting accounting philosophy yourself:

The 1997 Act really launched the modern proliferation of individual tax credits and especially refundable credits that are in essence spending programs operating through the tax system.

You think that's a GOOD thing??????? I sure don't.