Q for the Toyota Guys V3.0

SAMI

Formerly Beardy McGee
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Samokinnnnn deal. Well done.

BTW, the gold badges are factory. That's the ritzy Lexus side spilling over into the Toyota scene. ;)

There is a good looking 'black pearl' emblem package that is quite rare that I almost picked up for my '99 4runner...
 
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JL Rockies

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Had the rig up on the lift for the first time today for the State/IM and oil change. It would seem that if there's a gasket... it's leaking... not puddles of vital fluids on the floor leaking but wet. The front of the t case, valve cover and where the trans meets the engine. I'll guess I'll have to address each one by one. Tomorrow I'm changing the diff fluids and greasing what needs grease.
 

lewis

Fight Till You Die
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Keep us updated on the leaks. My 98 runner I just bought has all the same leaks and its the same color minus the gold stuff.
 

JL Rockies

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Since this post, I've added cruiser springs and Pro Comp shocks in the rear and a Tacoma spacer lift in the front. I did all of this back in May 24hrs before leaving for Pastafari. By the time I was on my way to Doll House, all the boots on the CVs started spewing grease everywhere and they started acting all "crunchy". In June, I replaced both CV axles and all was well. I added 235/85R16 in July just before going down to MOAB for Pioneer Day weekend. After returning from my trip, I noticed that the front end started sounding and feeling "crunchy" again but there's no signs of grease anywhere. The "crunchiness" happens when the vehicle is in motion no matter forward or turning. I am thinking that since it sounds like my exploded CVs without the visible evidence, maybe it could be the angles causing some binding. So perhaps I am in need of a diff drop. For those who've added a diff drop, did you do it just 'cause or was there something that told you it was time? I know the diff drop kit isn't expensive but I don't want to add something willy nilly either.
 

cruiseroutfit

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I did it because I was chewing up boots, if your boots are OK I doubt your CV internals are damaged as they can generally handle more angle than the boots.
 

JL Rockies

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I picked up a check engine light tonight and when I went to plug in my code reader, I could not find the plug, even with removing the panel. It's a 1997 so it's 'sposed to have one, it passed inspection when I bought it so there must've been a plug for the machine. It does have the diagnostic plug at the engine. What gives?
 

JL Rockies

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Found it under the center console. I'm used to it being in plain sight. Cleared the code and all seems well... for now.
 

JL Rockies

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I have another question based upon a regular guy observation. When I put 235/85R16 on my KJ, the tranmission wasn't happy climbing up steep grades and would constantly downshift to maintain speed on the freeway. I went from a stock 29" tire with 3.73 gears to a 32" tire and 4.10 gears were the solution. Now I find the same problem in my '97 4Runner with the same tires, but this time the difference is a 31" stock tire to a 32" tire. After getting some advice from Cruiser Outfitters, I located my axle code in the door jam: A03A/A340F. Based upon my research, that should mean that I already have 4.10 gears since I don't have an e locker (4.30 if I did). Since there is a radical difference in freeway performance between the two rigs and one had a more radical change from stock I assume that the transmission factors in here. I can imagine that the superior torque of the CRD motor in the Jeep also played a role in climbing those hills.

Cruiser Outfitters has a couple of e lockers on hand that might be set up for 4.30 gears if Toyota is consistent with gearing options across the models/years. If so, I am concerned that 4.30 gears would not be a big enough "upgrade" over my current 4.10s. My goal is to be able to cruise the freeway without having to lock out OD everytime I need to climb and not get too crazy with the revs.

What gearing is recommended for 32" tires and possibly 33" tires in the future?

Does gear selection impact e locker selection in that if a unit came out of a 4.30 vehicle, it can be changed to another ratio?

I am asking because mechanical junk is hard and stuff.
 

sixstringsteve

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UT
If it were me, I would run 4.56's with 33's. Some even go to 4.88s, but I think that's way too low.

Now, if my runner came with 4.30's, I don't think I'd bother re-gearing to 4.56s.


an elocker rear third can be changed to other ratios (4.56. 4.88, 5.29). Is that what you're asking?
 
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JL Rockies

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Yes, that's what I am asking. So, since I have to change the front gears as well, I can either change it to whatever the e locker has been set up for or change both. I guess what I am still confused by is I am picturing a thing that I am bolting onto what I already have but it may be in reality, a whole replacement rear dealio with gears inside.

This is only my 2nd 4x4 and I've not really bonded with it yet. The KJ and I were as one offroad and even though it didn't have a locker, I was able to will the rig wherever I wanted to go. I'd be thrilled if I can get the 4Runner to that point, even more so if I can say "this is much better".
 

sixstringsteve

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So, since I have to change the front gears as well, I can either change it to whatever the e locker has been set up for or change both.

Correct.

I guess what I am still confused by is I am picturing a thing that I am bolting onto what I already have but it may be in reality, a whole replacement rear dealio with gears inside.

You're picturing what is called a third member. You can swap out entire third members in the rear only (unless you have an old solid axle toyota). You can either swap in a third member with a different ratio (like a 4.30) or you can have someone like Carl install a different ring and pinion into your axle. It's quite different from a jeep. No matter what, you will still need to have a new ring and pinion installed in the front diff to match the new ratio in the rear (unless you find a front diff that already had 4.30s in it).
 

SAMI

Formerly Beardy McGee
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SLC, UT
I don't remember having that much trouble up hills in my '99 with 285's on steel wheels.. Is your motor in good running order? When you say e-locker, are you meaning an entire e-locked third member? Also, and Kurt probably mentioned this, but you'll have to do some minor fab to your rear housing to accept the e-locked third member. It's nothing terribly difficult, but will require cutting, grinding, and drilling..
 
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