Questions on finding good caster, and other leaf sprung axle concerns

bobdog

4x4 Addict!
Location
Sandy
Measure the distance from your frame to the spring eye on the shackle end. It is the root of all your problems. To get things right you would need to lower your front hangers so much that you really would have rock fangs. It is hard to bite the bullet and redo things but I guarantee your truck will perform better if you do. It has already been said but a CV will not do anything to stop your pinion from binding unless you rotate the pinion up.
 

bobdog

4x4 Addict!
Location
Sandy
If you insist on keeping the shackles at the rear then take a look at the way chevy does their front spring shackles on the pre 87 leaf sprung trucks and copy it. It will make things much better
 

Utahcryogenics

Formerly "Beerman"
Location
Murray
Hickey: I feel like a total ass now. As soon as I read your reply I said DUH! to myself. Thank you for the explanation it is crystal clear. :D

BOBDOG: I hate to be a horse's ass, but I do insist on keeping the shackle at the rear, BUT after the tuning I mentioned in my previous posts if it still causes problems or if the problems get worse, then I will go back to the drawing board.

Thanx again for the help guys. :beer
 

troutbum

cubi-kill
Location
SLC
so the answers you got were
cut and turn
rock fangs
or shackle forward

you don't like any of them, why did you ask? If you are so sure these things are done "right" why are you having problems?

Just wondering the purpose of this post??

FWIW I would go FS and cut and turn.
 

Utahcryogenics

Formerly "Beerman"
Location
Murray
troutbum said:
so the answers you got were
cut and turn
rock fangs
or shackle forward

you don't like any of them, why did you ask? If you are so sure these things are done "right" why are you having problems?

Just wondering the purpose of this post??

FWIW I would go FS and cut and turn.

Troll: Your answer, to see if there are any other suggestions. The 3 mentioned are good (like I said) just not my preferrence. I am sure that the 3 mentioned are NOT the only fixes or suggestions in the world.
The three mentioned I have already thought about, I was hoping that someone would post something else that might be intersting to ME.

Now that I am done answering myself to you may I post, or would you prefer that I get permission from you in the future before I make any posts?
Did Greg hand over to site to you or something?
 

Shawn

Just Hanging Out
Location
Holly Day
Beerman said:
Troll: Your answer, to see if there are any other suggestions. The 3 mentioned are good (like I said) just not my preferrence. I am sure that the 3 mentioned are NOT the only fixes or suggestions in the world.
The three mentioned I have already thought about, I was hoping that someone would post something else that might be intersting to ME.

Now that I am done answering myself to you may I post, or would you prefer that I get permission from you in the future before I make any posts?
Did Greg hand over to site to you or something?
wow.......... :rolleyes:

Maybe next time state what you already know.
 

Tacoma

Et incurventur ante non
Location
far enough away
the shitty weather is just making him cranky.

I still dont' understand why the caster is so jacked if the geometry was thought out???
 

Hickey

Burn-barrel enthusiast
Supporting Member
I thought of another possibility that would help your problem. There is a spring hanger design that replaces your shackle with a sliding spring hanger. Instead of swinging back and forth like a shackle does to adjust for length as the spring flattens out and droops, this other design slides front to back inside a track. It would help your problem quite a bit, but you would loose some lift, maybe as much as 2".
 

troutbum

cubi-kill
Location
SLC
Hickey said:
I thought of another possibility that would help your problem. There is a spring hanger design that replaces your shackle with a sliding spring hanger. Instead of swinging back and forth like a shackle does to adjust for length as the spring flattens out and droops, this other design slides front to back inside a track. It would help your problem quite a bit, but you would loose some lift, maybe as much as 2".

Scott @ rockstomper used to run them....tough to keep greased IIRC
 

Utahcryogenics

Formerly "Beerman"
Location
Murray
Sorry for my cranky attitude. I am a turd sometimes.

What about an anti-wrap bar?
I know they work if fabbed right in the back, but would it work right in the front?

The idea you posted Hickey sounds cool. I would like to see some pics of that. I will check out the Toy forum on PBB later, I think I have seen those guys do that sorta.
 
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