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Paul R

Well-Known Member
Location
SLC
I think there needs to be some carpools set up so far flung people can attend our board meetings.

I really want to help more, there has to be more efficient ways to achieve getting information than to drive a total of 3 hours+ for a meeting. I'm not unwilling, but IMHO there has to be a better way to communicate and utilize people who can't practically come to all of the meetings.

I definately don't want to come accross as complaining, I want to be part of the solution rather than continue to be part of the problem...
 

?JMAMA

Formerly YJMAMA
Location
Magna, UT
I have not made it to the monthly meetings. I plan on being there this month.

Does anyone take notes at the meetings? If so are they posted where those that can not make it to the meeting can read them?
 

Paul R

Well-Known Member
Location
SLC
why can't we have Paul and anyone else interested join in on the conf call? if nothing else listen and take notes, and chime in if he/they have a good thought or comment...

i'll be damned if we lose someone like Paul cause he happens to be 3 hours away, and couldn't get info/assignments if he's willing...

-Jason

Technicaly it's only 1.5 hours in good conditions, thus 3+ total time but, the idea is the same... It is not practical for me to drive down and back when I have 7:30 classes... I really can't imagine I'm the only one in this boat.
 

Seth

These go to 11
On a side not when is the next compass coming out? I have not gotten one in awhile.

It should mail this week. I spoke with the printer today. It's a long story but the long and short of it come back to volunteer hours.

What everyone needs to understand about U4 is that right now we are a handful of people trying to focus our energies the best way we know how. We are overwhelmingly undermanned. The same small group that brings you the RMP updates and research are the same people that call sponsors and solicit donations and write articles for the magazine and, and, and....

I don't think, scratch that, I KNOW people don't understand all that U4 does. We are trying to get the word out as much as we can but it still takes a attentive audience at this point. 2007 has been a HUGE year in the world of land use in Utah. Without the efforts of a few key individuals around this state the off-road community would be completely uninformed and ill-prepared. It is thanks to key members of U4 and its member clubs that the layperson has a concrete, educated opinion about what is wrong in these rmp's, what to comment on, why to take issue etc, etc.

Kurt Williams, Don Black, Steve Jackson, Dave Adams, Ber Knight, Jeff Stevens, to name a few, are some of the unsung heros of this fight. They have all spent quite literally hundreds of hours pouring over thousands of pages of documents looking of issues, outlining issues and presenting them for your consumption and comment making. Each RMP consists of at least three books, over 1000 pages each. And these folks have done this with 6 plans this year.

People ask how they can help. Knowing where to begin is the biggest problem. The issue of land use in Utah is a daunting task. Even understanding the issues involved can be intense. That is why we need people to take a small bite of of this huge pie. What everyone reading this needs to understand is this. Without your help the off-road community in Utah is doomed. A small group cannot sustain this level of involvement for an extended period.

I came to my initial U4 meeting completely uninformed and green (pun intended). I am still a know nothing. But I keep trying to help. Don't let inexperience and time constraints keep you away. And if by chance you do make it to a meeting don't get overwhelmed and run and hide. Give it a few months, figure out how your skill set can help and work with that.

Our membership is growing. Our voice is growing. Our influence is growing. To keep this up we need people. We need people for tasks as simple as scouring newspapers for articles to organizing service projects. We need people that are willing to get and STAY involved. When volunteering you will most likely meet some resistance. (Meat can attest) This is because people come and go but the tasks remain. We have added some quality people in the last few month. Most of these people came to 3-4 months of meeting before anyone takes them seriously. It is not that we are not happy to see new faces, we are. We just hope you to stick it out, hang in and come consistently.

This is a big state. We have members in almost every corner. The growth in southern Utah is awesome. This is due to a few key people that got involved and took the reigns. The members of Rockaholics and U4x4C down there have organized our next convention. Complete with trail leaders, product sponsors, BLM permission and catering. With any luck we raise a few thousand dollars for the open access fund. After all that is the point.

The board meeting are a quick way to get up to speed on what U4 has on its plate. But don't let the inability to attend deter you. We keep minutes and the important stuff gets blasted out to all the boards. Some of our most pressing needs have been on the website for over a year. If you look at he volunteer page steve posted you can see some of these simple jobs.

It is hard to pin down a answer to the "what more can I do?" question. That answer is alway changing. If you had asked me last week I would have told you to pick up some T-Shirts we had printed or call on these 5 product suppliers and get a donation. This week I would tell you to write up a rig spotlight for the magazine. Or better yet just come to our pizza party tomorrow night and show your support for Kurt and his many hours of rmp reading dedication.
 

JoeT

Well-Known Member
Location
Herriman
Doing another PSH clean up this year? Gotta love the article in the Safari paper page 34. Count me in on being there again this year.
 

Cody

Random Quote Generator
Supporting Member
Location
Gastown
would it be possible to record screen names of u4 members on RME and send out a bulk PM to remind them of meetings and events?
 

Meat_

Banned
Location
Lehi
would it be possible to record screen names of u4 members on RME and send out a bulk PM to remind them of meetings and events?

We do have records of who listed their club when they joined, but I don't think we can (or should) use that info in such a mannor, and they don't list their user name on RME anyway.

It would be better to just have people sign up for the bulk PM
 

Brett

Meat-Hippy
We do have records of who listed their club when they joined, but I don't think we can (or should) use that info in such a mannor, and they don't list their user name on RME anyway.

It would be better to just have people sign up for the bulk PM

That or an email......we'll see.

PM shouldn't be too hard, but there's a lot of other forums that I'd like to hit the same way.....


hmmmmmmmmmmmm:eek:
 

waynehartwig

www.jeeperman.com
Location
Mead, WA
Like someone else said, I'm long distance - what can I do more than I already am? I already write letters and send them to the people I'm told. I'm a donating member of key organizations that say they are trying to make a difference. What else? I can't drive 1,000 miles for a 1 hour meeting.
 

Seth

These go to 11
Like someone else said, I'm long distance - what can I do more than I already am? I already write letters and send them to the people I'm told. I'm a donating member of key organizations that say they are trying to make a difference. What else? I can't drive 1,000 miles for a 1 hour meeting.

Some of the tasks on the volunteer page are web based. Might be a thought. It really depends on how much time one has to donate. Maybe pimpin suppliers for raffle items? I am sure we can come up with something that can be done over the interweb or phone. :)
 
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