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Meat_

Banned
Location
Lehi
Loading for a gas operated gun is different than a bolt action gun. Do yourself a favor and buy the Sierra manual, it has a whole section on reloading for gas operated guns. It goes over slam fires(seat your primers deep), case selection(dont buy military), which primers are better(harder cups are needed), neck tension, and proper case sizing, and other important things. There are 18 pages devoted to loading for a gas operated gun, read them. What gun did you buy? My Rock River 18 inch 1in8 twist will shoot 5 shot 1/2 groups with cheap ammo. Have fun.
What he said
I have some wolf ammo in .223 that won't chamber in my bolt action rifle.

Some bolt action rifles come with really tight chambers, and most steel cased craptacular ammo does not follow spec very close.

My Mini-14 will shoot Wolf ammo all day long, but you'd better not plan on hitting anything small.....
 

bobmed

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Location
sugarliberty
I have a .223 bolt rifle with 1-12 twist.
It won't chamber some factory ammo and heavier bullets
won't be accurate because of the slow twist.
 

timpanogos

Push to the Peak
Location
Heber
I have not reloaded forever. Kind of gives me the bug ... I have lots of stuff (including crono) and used to load a lot of 30 cal ... like others have mentioned, .223 is not worth reloading for playing around rounds (at least last time I reloaded).

I have some 30 cal bullets I bought at a gun show years ago, they were a weird weight, like 169g or something ... anyway, they have graphite lubricated titanum inserts in them (very pointy little buggers also). That fmj tip is 1/3 filled with a thick gray substance. We went to a junk yard and bought some steel one day ... I loaded up some rounds for my 300win mag, and shot the steel plates at 200 yards (I have a nice 26 power target scope on my 300, with bi-pod and can hold a 12" pattern at 600 yards, can hit a refrigurator box at 1000).

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anyway, I still have some of the steel out there under the snow, I'll have to dig it out and take some pictures ... impressive stuff.

Suprisingly, we recovered one of the inserts, the pointy tip was bent over a bit, but undulled, after penetrating about 2" of steel
 

timpanogos

Push to the Peak
Location
Heber
don't know, could be, yea, that insert is too heavy for titanium ... all I know, it keep it's sharp, with just a little bend over, after punching through some thick stuff!

Normal fmj rounds did not even dent the surface, but impregnate a cool splatter of lead/copper in about a 1" diameter
 

timpanogos

Push to the Peak
Location
Heber
I tried loading some .223 in 30 cal subos (sorry spelling), I could get them to go REAL fast out the barrel, but they always keyholed, even by 50 yards
 

Rusted

Let's Ride!
Supporting Member
Location
Sandy
Loading for a gas operated gun is different than a bolt action gun. Do yourself a favor and buy the Sierra manual, it has a whole section on reloading for gas operated guns. It goes over slam fires(seat your primers deep), case selection(dont buy military), which primers are better(harder cups are needed), neck tension, and proper case sizing, and other important things. There are 18 pages devoted to loading for a gas operated gun, read them. What gun did you buy? My Rock River 18 inch 1in8 twist will shoot 5 shot 1/2 groups with cheap ammo. Have fun.

What edition of the Sierra manual do you have? I have the 4th edition and I am not seeing the 18 pages of gas operated. But I did read about the 10 shot group that measured out at 41.5" that was shot at one mile :eek:
 

troutbum

cubi-kill
Location
SLC
winchester 45g white box shoot sub MOA out of my 24" AR.
at $0.30 a round it is tough to complain, the 55g black hills shoot better, but cost more.
 
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