Seals on trial for beating terrorist

jackjoh

Jack - KC6NAR
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I thought this was on here before but could not find it.
The first of three navy seals has been acquitted from all charges in his court martial trial. Absurd in the first place, how can you mistreat a terrorist? Oxymoron???
 

Bobzilla

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Location
Loma Colorado
We support the Navy Seals and all our Troops,

Yea, those stinking Islamo extremist SOB's get treated better than our Soldiers, we hope the other Seals get off those BS charges.

God Bless our Troops & God Bless America
 

Tacoma

Et incurventur ante non
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far enough away
Those charges were shameful, the trial is shameful, even an acquittal is shameful, coming as it does in the middle of these suspiciously PC circumstances. Exonerate them!

SEALs dont' usually make mistaken ID's of bad guys.
 

SAMI

Formerly Beardy McGee
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SLC, UT
Let's throw a news link in this biotch

Originally Posted by New York Times

Navy SEAL Cleared in Iraq Abuse Case
By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
Published: April 22, 2010
Filed at 5:40 a.m. ET

BAGHDAD (AP) -- A U.S. military jury cleared a Navy SEAL Thursday of failing to prevent the beating of an Iraqi prisoner suspected of masterminding a 2004 attack that killed four American security contractors.

The contractors' burned bodies were dragged through the streets and two were hanged from a bridge over the Euphrates river in the former insurgent hotbed of Fallujah, in what became a major turning point in the Iraq war.

The trial of three SEALs, the Navy's elite special forces unit, has outraged many Americans who see it as coddling terrorists.

Petty Officer 1st Class Julio Huertas, 28, of Blue Island, Illinois, was found not guilty by a six-man jury of charges of dereliction of duty and attempting to influence the testimony of another service member.

The jury spent two hours deliberating the verdict.

Huertas is the first of three SEALS to face a court-martial for charges related to the abuse incident. All three SEALs could have received only a disciplinary reprimand, but insisted on a military trial to clear their names and save their careers.

The trial stems from an attack on four Blackwater security contractors who were driving through the city of Fallujah west of Baghdad in early 2004. The images of the bodies hanging from the bridge drove home to many the rising power of the insurgency and helped spark a bloody U.S. invasion of the city to root out the insurgents later that year.

The Iraqi prisoner who was allegedly abused, Ahmed Hashim Abed, testified Wednesday on the opening day of the trial at the U.S. military's Camp Victory on Baghdad's western outskirts that he was beaten by U.S. troops while hooded and tied to a chair.

Navy Petty Officer 3rd Class Kevin DeMartino, who was assigned to process and transport the prisoner and is not a SEAL, testified he saw one SEAL punch the prisoner in the stomach and watched blood spurt from his mouth. Huertas and the third SEAL were in the narrow holding-room at the time of the incident, he added.

But defense attorneys tried to cast doubt on the beating claims, showing photographs of Abed after the alleged beating in which he had a visible cut inside his lip but no obvious signs of bruising or injuries anywhere else.

In her closing arguments, Huertas' civilian attorney Monica Lombardi pointed to inconsistencies between DeMartino's testimony and nearly every other Navy witness. She also reminded the jury of the terrorism charges against Abed, who is in Iraqi custody and has not yet been tried, saying he could not be trusted and may have inflicted wounds on himself as a way of recasting blame on American troops.

But prosecutor Lt. Cmdr. Jason Grover said DeMartino said the SEALs were itching to abuse Abed as payback for the killings of the Blackwater guards -- two of whom were former SEALs.
 

SAMI

Formerly Beardy McGee
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SLC, UT
Hopefully the career of the commanding officer who cried wolf will get what's coming to him. Karma's a b!tch.. I'd assume that Military Karma has a severe sting.. Hopefully his career comes to an abrupt end.

From the Internets:
ANY time a service member is up for an administrative disciplinary action, they (the service member) have the right to request a court martial. The reason for requesting one, is that it takes the issue from administrative to criminal and places a significantly higher burden of proof on the prosecution (with the risk of higher punishment), so someone who knows they are innocent has a good chance of exactly this SEAL's outcome. If it's handled admistratively, it's usually just one O-3 or O-5/6 (depending on the level of infraction and branch of service) who serves as judge, jury and executioner so to speak, instead of an actual Judge and Jury.
 
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SAMI

Formerly Beardy McGee
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SLC, UT
Terrorist should have ZERO business in a 'fair' trial. Same with the Somali pirates that are being brought to the US for trial..

Firing Squad...
 

N-Smooth

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UT
if this interests you, read Lone Survivor!!! it is one of the best books ever written... i have read it twice and i decided i am going to read it once a year (same with the wife)

anyways, marcus has a lot to say about our ridiculous rules of engagement and how a lot of our service men and women die because of the crazy-ass politicians in washington that know nothing about war
 

solidfrontaxle

Toyota jihad
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Casper, Wyoming
if this interests you, read Lone Survivor!!! it is one of the best books ever written... i have read it twice and i decided i am going to read it once a year (same with the wife)

anyways, marcus has a lot to say about our ridiculous rules of engagement and how a lot of our service men and women die because of the crazy-ass politicians in washington that know nothing about war

Incredible book. I've never gotten so close to crying from reading anything before. Super powerful.

It also has alot of interesting perspectives on the afghanis, leadership, and WMDs.
 

DOSS

Poker of the Hornets Nest
Location
Suncrest
Terrorist should have ZERO business in a 'fair' trial. Same with the Somali pirates that are being brought to the US for trial..

Firing Squad...

I figure that they should have a fair trial as that is the "American" way.

But even more so it would send our legal system strait down the tubes if all we had to do was accuse someone of being a terrorist so that we did not have to have a trial or a fair trail for them. I am more than willing to use our courts time to make sure that the accused is actually a Terrorist before we send them to the Firing Squad just so that one day someone can't just accuse me of being a terrorist and long for a fair trail. The way I see it when you take away someone else's right to a fair trial you stripping away your own rights at the same time.
 

N-Smooth

Smooth Gang Founding Member
Location
UT
Incredible book. I've never gotten so close to crying from reading anything before. Super powerful.

It also has alot of interesting perspectives on the afghanis, leadership, and WMDs.

yeah, close to crying... me too...

there are a whole host of youtube vids with him speaking and there is a movie planned as well
 

Bobzilla

Active Member
Location
Loma Colorado
2nd Navy Seal found not guilty of the charges, ye haaaaaaaaaaa, God Bless our Troops, piss on the terrorist SOB's firing squad is to good for the POS,

I say, Saw his head off just like his fellow Islamo extremist buddies do to Americans.

God Bless our Troops!!!!!!!!!!
 

ID Bronco

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Idaho Falls, ID
Bobzilla, everytime I see your avatar I throw up a little...

x2

I'll weigh in here, kudos on the aquittal, I think military "terrorists" or any other term put on them belong in military court. The American court system is for Americans. Once the military court has the trial, send quick, severe punishment to them and broadcast it as a warning and example.
 

Tacoma

Et incurventur ante non
Location
far enough away
well put


I figure that they should have a fair trial as that is the "American" way.

But even more so it would send our legal system strait down the tubes if all we had to do was accuse someone of being a terrorist so that we did not have to have a trial or a fair trail for them. I am more than willing to use our courts time to make sure that the accused is actually a Terrorist before we send them to the Firing Squad just so that one day someone can't just accuse me of being a terrorist and long for a fair trail. The way I see it when you take away someone else's right to a fair trial you stripping away your own rights at the same time.
 

Bobzilla

Active Member
Location
Loma Colorado
yea, it was a bad hair day after working on the jeep, I will try and get that corrected, it even gives me the creeps, It took meek hours just to get that stupid pic on, I will get a pic of my YJ buggy build.
 
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