Sponsorship
- Thread starter redrocktj
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Badger
I am the Brute squad
- Location
- South Salt Lake
its called start competing spend your own money on doing so .once you start getting good and a company can see what you can do then they might start to think about putting their name on the side of your rig.if your looking for some kind of hand out its not going to happen till you prove yourself.
Badger pretty much hit it on the head, unless you have a relative with deep pockets.
You've got to prove yourself first. Part of that is having the support from home to be gone as much as it requires, not just for comps but for practice and maintenance. Without the support, don't even bother.
You've got to prove yourself first. Part of that is having the support from home to be gone as much as it requires, not just for comps but for practice and maintenance. Without the support, don't even bother.
Tacoma
Et incurventur ante non
- Location
- far enough away
... and remember the old adage:
The best way to make a million dollars in motorsports is to start with TWO million.
The best way to make a million dollars in motorsports is to start with TWO million.
high_roller
www.RideandDriver.com
- Location
- Utah
hahaha, that is so trueTacoma said:... and remember the old adage:
The best way to make a million dollars in motorsports is to start with TWO million.
Just go around asking---yes, sorta. You need to show the company what you can do for THEM. A good proposal packet telling them what you can offer will help. Do your research on the company before you approach them--know their marketing strategies, know their intended customer, etc.
I think it's getting to the point that competing in rockcrawling isn't enough anymore--sponsors want more. Competitions do give good exposure, but there is a lot more you can do. Unfortunately, you'll probably spend a dollar and several hours labor for each sponsorship dollar you'll receive.
I think it's getting to the point that competing in rockcrawling isn't enough anymore--sponsors want more. Competitions do give good exposure, but there is a lot more you can do. Unfortunately, you'll probably spend a dollar and several hours labor for each sponsorship dollar you'll receive.
not that I have any personal experience but I think Carl really got to the point. You have to sell yourself to potential sponsors, as an example Dustin Webster and Redbull. Dustin is a great competitor, but not necessarily in the sense of placing high in the standings (I know he's had his time of shining too though). He is always selling himself, making it worth his sponsor's time to continue to give them financial support. Just watching a lot of the competitors that are getting more and more support from big name sponsors and this is something they all have in common. True, sometimes it helps to have an "in" but once you're "in" you have to continue to make it worth their time.I Lean said:
Yea this is pretty much what i was thinking. i just thought i might be easier in utah than anywhere else because off roading is so big here. Just like you have more of a chance to get sponsored snowboading here beause we have some of the best terrain parks and snow.
I just think if there was a new class of 4 wheeling where not every rig was a custom built buggy, but instead there was a class that is more daily driver like. I think it would appeal to the public more and sell more products because its more realistic for people to put a detriot in their dana 44 rather than putting a ARB in their dana 60 or portal axle.
Also if there was a competition league for daily drivers more people could afford to enter and competition would be stiff. The truck would also be able to drive around on the streets further exposing the sponsors stickers on a particular truck or jeep.
I think people that have more stock like trucks would rather see competitions with trucks that are similar to theirs, because they could relate to it. and it wouldnt just be another tricked out buggy.
I know i would compete and compete very hard if there was a league like this.
I just think if there was a new class of 4 wheeling where not every rig was a custom built buggy, but instead there was a class that is more daily driver like. I think it would appeal to the public more and sell more products because its more realistic for people to put a detriot in their dana 44 rather than putting a ARB in their dana 60 or portal axle.
Also if there was a competition league for daily drivers more people could afford to enter and competition would be stiff. The truck would also be able to drive around on the streets further exposing the sponsors stickers on a particular truck or jeep.
I think people that have more stock like trucks would rather see competitions with trucks that are similar to theirs, because they could relate to it. and it wouldnt just be another tricked out buggy.
I know i would compete and compete very hard if there was a league like this.
ahhh, you mean like the modified class in UROC, and just about every other seriesredrocktj said:
this is the exact same idea behind all of them. The problem (if you consider this a problem) with this is you have a set of rules, you will always have some teams that have money (no matter if it's personal money, sponsor money, etc) that build new rigs right to the rules, exploitting every single hole they possibly can, every single season. This in turn forces everyone else that wants to remain competitive to do the same and then you start to loose sight of what the class intentions were in the first place. I'm not saying there is anything wrong with it, it's just the natural evolution of the sport. Until they list the equipment you have to have and can have no other equipment (similar to the formula toy class), this will happen. But, IMO, that takes the enginuity (sp?) and originality out of the build. I love seeing each season, what holes were missed and are being exploitted Supergper said:ahhh, you mean like the modified class in UROC, and just about every other series
yeah, but even the modified class is a bit beyond what i am talking about but i just looked at the UROC website and they have a stock class. I never have been to an event other than the one at rocky mountain race way and when i was there i didnt see any somewhat stock vehicles so i didnt know that sort of class existed. I think im an alright wheeler, of course i still have alot to learn but it would be fun to start competing, but as you all were saying, you have to prove yourself, i just wish there was a poor mans way to do it. I wish they had scouts or something down in moab during EJS ahha that would be cool
chadschoon
Well-Known Member
- Location
- lehi
but still you have to have a roll cage and certain safety items to do so, and I believe a stock wrangler cage does not count towards a cage.
chadschoon
Well-Known Member
- Location
- lehi
mine to so lets do it
xj_punk said:i don't know if anyone will sponsor you while you have a dana 30
no hard feelings
doesnt a dana 30 use the same basic inside components as a rubicon dana 44??
i know my dana 30 isnt very strong until i get superior chromoly axleshafts and ctm ujoints but once those are in i should be pretty much ok up to 35 inch tires.
RockMonkey
Suddenly Enthusiastic
Competing in a stockish daily driver rig would be way more expensive than competing in a buggy. You would constantly be replacing body panels, glass, paint, etc etc etc. Ask Todd Adams and Linda Adams. They competed in a stockish roadworthy rig for a looong time. They spent more money fixing the damage after every event than I can imagine. There are smaller local events that you can get your feet wet and work your way up. Just last weekend was the Kink Crawler challenge (may not be the exact name, but something like that) in Price. Start with things like that and see what you think. There's no way you're going to get a company to give you money because you think you want to start doing something. Do it (and pay for it) yourself and be successful and then MAYBE someone will decide to give you some money for it. Do it for fun though, because the money will never be enough to keep you doing it.
chadschoon
Well-Known Member
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- lehi
very true, just entry fees are crazy expensive!!! and if I do it with my rig which I doubt because the plans for the future are to have a buggy, it will not be my DD
RockMonkey
Suddenly Enthusiastic
Entry fees are around $300 per event plus a series fee due at the start of the season.
Todd Adams
Grammy's Spotter
- Location
- Salt Lake City
Here is a link to WeRocks http://www.we-rock.cc/ it is just what you are after, having an actual stock class. Rich even has a trophy class so if you don’t want in to the prize money it is less expensive to enter. Bob Hazel who runs ProRock also has a stock class.redrocktj said:well we do have the same awesome long arm kit so there is no reason we shouldnt dominant the cuircut once the rest of our rigs are up to par
Now for a reality check. You will need money to compete and lots of it. It won’t come from sponsors if you are just starting out, and even when you have got some experience under your belt don’t expect to get money but products to run on your rig. Also to compete you need lots of time off work (don’t quit your day job).
Even in Stock Class the competitors are very good and very experienced, something you don’t have yet so don’t expect to start winning even if you think you are a great driver. Competing is much different than just driving a tough trail or making the obstacles out at Little Moab. You don’t have much time to complete a course and hitting one cone can knock you out of the running.
You need to read and understand the rules better than the judges. You will also go through a lot of expense and work just to make the safety requirements on you rig.
Now for a bit of advice. Get involved with a team that is already competing by volunteering to help in the pits. See if it really is what you want to do. If all you have ever done is be a spectator then I doubt you have the full concept of the sport. Check out the competitor forums on Pirate WeRock and UROC.
Oh and there were at least 3 Stock Class rigs competing for a while that I know about with beefed up Dana 30’s including us. But there were reasons for this that I won’t get into. Suffice it to say that if you don’t have the coin to throw at the right axles for your rig then you don’t have the money to compete.
Todd