Talk to me about big adventure bikes.
- Thread starter J-mobzz
- Start date
- Location
- The Land Northward (Bountiful), Utah
So exciting!!! What color?
- Location
- Grantsville, Utah
Oh man that's good lookin!
Tonkaman
Well-Known Member
- Location
- West Jordan
What are the details of the big trip your planning?
I’ll post up details on ig as I get closer and do a trip report after it’s done here.
Now time to get my fat ass in shape to do the ride.
02SE
Well-Known Member
- Location
- Millcreek, UT
That's not very encouraging. I had a similar experience with Plaza Cycle years ago.
- Location
- Sandy, Ut
I've had good luck with Edge for the minimal stuff I needed, admittedly not much. They are active supporters of the OHV community and host monthly meetings, that's a big plus for me.
- Location
- The Land Northward (Bountiful), Utah
I've heard 2 seperate stories about mechanics or sales people taking customer bikes on test drives -dropping them and trying to conceal the damage and then fighting them to repair it.
My experience was when I tried to buy a brand new bike- they quoted me $3,000 over MSRP on the year earlier carryover (an 18) when I showed them a written quote from Rocky Mountain ATV/MC for a 19 at MSRP. I asked them to match that on the 18- and they told me to kick rocks so I drove directly to St George picked up my new bike and without the ridiculous $1,500 document+ setup fees Edge wanted. RMATVMC even gave me a $250 credit to use on gear or parts
I've also had them tell me they had parts only to find out after a 40 minute drive they didn't at all. If I must go there now- I make them verify they have the parts in their hands and hold them for me at the parts desk before I drive down...
My experience was when I tried to buy a brand new bike- they quoted me $3,000 over MSRP on the year earlier carryover (an 18) when I showed them a written quote from Rocky Mountain ATV/MC for a 19 at MSRP. I asked them to match that on the 18- and they told me to kick rocks so I drove directly to St George picked up my new bike and without the ridiculous $1,500 document+ setup fees Edge wanted. RMATVMC even gave me a $250 credit to use on gear or parts
I've also had them tell me they had parts only to find out after a 40 minute drive they didn't at all. If I must go there now- I make them verify they have the parts in their hands and hold them for me at the parts desk before I drive down...
- Location
- Sandy, Ut
I've heard 2 seperate stories about mechanics or sales people taking customer bikes on test drives -dropping them and trying to conceal the damage and then fighting them to repair it.
My experience was when I tried to buy a brand new bike- they quoted me $3,000 over MSRP on the year earlier carryover (an 18) when I showed them a written quote from Rocky Mountain ATV/MC for a 19 at MSRP. I asked them to match that on the 18- and they told me to kick rocks so I drove directly to St George picked up my new bike and without the ridiculous $1,500 document+ setup fees Edge wanted. RMATVMC even gave me a $250 credit to use on gear or parts
I've also had them tell me they had parts only to find out after a 40 minute drive they didn't at all. If I must go there now- I make them verify they have the parts in their hands and hold them for me at the parts desk before I drive down...
I'd have zero issues using RMATV too, also a major OHV access contributor. I've spent a lot of money there and will continue to do so.
Plaza, aka Karl Malone is the second worst dealer ever. They have been a joke for years.
So I just ordered a Klim Krios Pro helmet yesterday. At $750 I’m kind of feeling some buyers remorse and I don’t even have it yet. I’ve never spent anywhere near that kind of money on a helmet before I have a hard time believing it’s going to be that much better.
www.klim.com
If I put it on and I’m not blown away I’m sending it back.
So that said does anyone have a recommendation on a quality helmet?
Krios Pro Helmet ECE/DOT
www.klim.com
If I put it on and I’m not blown away I’m sending it back.
So that said does anyone have a recommendation on a quality helmet?
- Location
- The Land Northward (Bountiful), Utah
I've tried on that klim helmet. It's not that special.
And I'll tell you what I've told multiple people:
2 helmets.
1 off-road based ADV helmet. That Klim isn't nearly ventilated enough for any real off-road riding and it will get sweaty.
1 on road helmet. ADV helmets have 2 things against them for long on road trips. A peak that strains your neck and the shape: the pointed chin strains my neck when you turn your head at speed. And it doesn't seal to your head so it's loud.
Since I changed to this strategy I've been happier. Helmets are very "use specific" IMO
I have lots of Klim stuff. Some of it is worth it, lots is not. And their warranty and quality of a few things is complete garbage since Polaris put their hands in the pie. Used to be lifetime- now 1 year with exemptions.
If you MUST have only one helmet, the Bell MX-9 Adventure MIPS has all the same features (sans carbon) and better ventilation AND is 1/3 that price. Plus for $80 more you can get the DLX transition lens which is a game changer. It will go full dark to full light in 30 seconds and eliminates the need for shades . (I loooove this on my Bell Star DLX MIPS)
And I'll tell you what I've told multiple people:
2 helmets.
1 off-road based ADV helmet. That Klim isn't nearly ventilated enough for any real off-road riding and it will get sweaty.
1 on road helmet. ADV helmets have 2 things against them for long on road trips. A peak that strains your neck and the shape: the pointed chin strains my neck when you turn your head at speed. And it doesn't seal to your head so it's loud.
Since I changed to this strategy I've been happier. Helmets are very "use specific" IMO
I have lots of Klim stuff. Some of it is worth it, lots is not. And their warranty and quality of a few things is complete garbage since Polaris put their hands in the pie. Used to be lifetime- now 1 year with exemptions.
If you MUST have only one helmet, the Bell MX-9 Adventure MIPS has all the same features (sans carbon) and better ventilation AND is 1/3 that price. Plus for $80 more you can get the DLX transition lens which is a game changer. It will go full dark to full light in 30 seconds and eliminates the need for shades . (I loooove this on my Bell Star DLX MIPS)
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This is good and interesting feedback. It’s not that I need one helmet I have plenty of motocross helmets.
It’s interesting that you say that about the ventilation as that’s what they claim to be the biggest upgrade with the new klim opposed to the previous model is all the upgraded ventilation.
The bell helmet seems to have tons of reviews about how loud it is and the video in Rocky Mountain ATV mentioned that it’s based on a motocross shell and because of that inheritantly will be quite a bit louder.
I guess maybe I should be looking more street helmets at this point. I want something lightweight I want something safe and I want something relatively quiet.
- Location
- The Land Northward (Bountiful), Utah
Low speed ventilation is where the Klim suffers.
It's my experience that no ADV helmet will be quiet except ones with rounder shapes, less ventilation and smaller head openings.
These are the three main sources of wind noise.
Shoei and Arai are about it but they are expensive too. Ask Chad @glockman about his new one
Street helmets are quieter bar none.
Make sure whichever helmet you look at specifies riding position. The quietest helmet in a tuck position for example isn't as quiet in a in upright position.
It's my experience that no ADV helmet will be quiet except ones with rounder shapes, less ventilation and smaller head openings.
These are the three main sources of wind noise.
Shoei and Arai are about it but they are expensive too. Ask Chad @glockman about his new one
Street helmets are quieter bar none.
Make sure whichever helmet you look at specifies riding position. The quietest helmet in a tuck position for example isn't as quiet in a in upright position.
- Location
- Grand Junction, CO
My favorite helmet was the Shoei Hornet X2 and loved it, the fit was perfect and the visor has massive vents that really prevented the visor putting stress on my neck at freeway speeds.
I like how that one is also snell rated. That helmet never came up in my searches. It looks a little heavy but seems to be a quality piece. How would you rate the noise? I don’t know if you had helmet speakers or ever wore earbuds but that’s kind of what I’m hoping for is to find some thing that I don’t have to keep the music blasting to be able to hear it and help prevent hearing loss.
- Location
- Grand Junction, CO
It's built for speakers to be added, which I did and loved. I didn't think wind noise was bad, it never caused me any issues.
- Location
- The Land Northward (Bountiful), Utah
Almost every new premium helmet is setup for COMS these days.
Ryan F9 has some really great info on Snell vs ece vs dot. Along with thoughtful info on adv and quiet helmets. But I agree with him that Snell is not the best rating currently. The higher ECE is more desirable.
He also quite likes the Klim helmet I believe. It just wasn't for me.
(Old video)
I wear these ear plugs (after trying about a dozen, these are the least entrusive and kill the most wind noise without killing my music quality and the ability to hear humans speak to me):
The "race" version (26db reduction)
And a Cardo Packtalk Bold.
www.cardosystems.com
Cardo is releasing a new version called the Edge. It promises to be even better.
The speakers are excellent in the Packtalk Bold and even better JBL speakers in the Black. And the sound cancelling I love.
The battery lasts a long long time and I got to enjoy using mine 7 days through Alaska last year.
I've got a serious hookup with Cardo if you decide that's the way to go.
Ryan F9 has some really great info on Snell vs ece vs dot. Along with thoughtful info on adv and quiet helmets. But I agree with him that Snell is not the best rating currently. The higher ECE is more desirable.
He also quite likes the Klim helmet I believe. It just wasn't for me.
(Old video)
I wear these ear plugs (after trying about a dozen, these are the least entrusive and kill the most wind noise without killing my music quality and the ability to hear humans speak to me):
The "race" version (26db reduction)
And a Cardo Packtalk Bold.
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www.cardosystems.com
Cardo is releasing a new version called the Edge. It promises to be even better.
The speakers are excellent in the Packtalk Bold and even better JBL speakers in the Black. And the sound cancelling I love.
The battery lasts a long long time and I got to enjoy using mine 7 days through Alaska last year.
I've got a serious hookup with Cardo if you decide that's the way to go.