the "a" word

[N-Smooth]

so i am looking to get an atlas because of problems with my teralow kit.

where is the best place to buy them from? i am looking into getting a 5.0 but i will have to see what is adaptable to my 4 cylinder and manual tranny.
i think i can get one with 1310's, does anyone know the size difference between an atlas and a 231? i am concerned about having to shorten or lenghten my driveshafts.

man a 5.0 would be sweeeet and take my crawl ratio from 84 to 105!
2600 bucks is not a horrible price for peace of mind...

-nate

 

[jedijeeper]

so i am looking to get an atlas because of problems with my teralow kit.

where is the best place to buy them from? i am looking into getting a 5.0 but i will have to see what is adaptable to my 4 cylinder and manual tranny.
i think i can get one with 1310's, does anyone know the size difference between an atlas and a 231? i am concerned about having to shorten or lenghten my driveshafts.

man a 5.0 would be sweeeet and take my crawl ratio from 84 to 105!
2600 bucks is not a horrible price for peace of mind...

-nate

You gonna unload your T-low kit? Is it still good? I'm interested....

Adam

 

[Milner]

Your not gonna find any deals on a 5.0....They only run a few every few months.
Tlak to Brandon, for the atlas or he might be able to help you out with the Tera low issues.

 

[Herzog]

so i am looking to get an atlas because of problems with my teralow kit.

where is the best place to buy them from? i am looking into getting a 5.0 but i will have to see what is adaptable to my 4 cylinder and manual tranny.
i think i can get one with 1310's, does anyone know the size difference between an atlas and a 231? i am concerned about having to shorten or lenghten my driveshafts.

man a 5.0 would be sweeeet and take my crawl ratio from 84 to 105!
2600 bucks is not a horrible price for peace of mind...

-nate

I bought mine (4.3) a couple years ago from Specialty Jeep Parts in CA. I don't know if it is still ran by the same people now days, but I got a quote from Steve N. (PBB) on the phone and bought right then because it was such a good price. And it was wayyy under $2600 that's for sure.

Yes, you can 1310's or any other size. I run 1310's with mine and have no problems. You will likely end up shortening your front drive shaft and lengthening the rear. The front output does sit further forward than the 231, and is shorter in length from front to back, but a lot more stout.

 

[RockMonkey]

Herzog is right about the driveshafts. You will have to change both of them, but you can get your Atlas with 1310s. $2600 is a ton more than I paid too, but the 5.0 gears might add some money. Get the 32 spline front output, too. One thing you may consider, if it's power you really want, it might be a whole lot cheaper to swap in a 4.0, instead of paying for tons of gearing to fake your way into power.

 

[Cody]

The front will be shorter by about 2" and the rear will be longer by about 2" (the drivelines that is).

I got mine from Suka too and for way less than 2600. You should be able to get the case and both drivelines and still be in it less than 2600. I have 1310 stuff, but if you think you may want to go bigger in teh future, you can get the flanges that will accept most anything.

fyi, mine is a 3.8. w/ 3.8, 4.10 in the diffs and 37's, my crawl ratio is about perfect with the auto trans.

Cody

 

[N-Smooth]

i am actually getting my teralow replaced... and i will sell it brand new to whomever wants it. i also have a sye.

i am not trying to fake power, i just like the lower gears, i love my crawl ratio now with 36.5's and when i go to bigger axles and tires i don't want to lower my diffs a ton. i like the 4 cyl, it has always been good to me.

that sucks about shortening the drivelines they have 5 trips on them!! who does it cheap (i really should just worry about it later)

the 5.0 is only like 200 bucks more than a 4.3 and i heard it comes with the 32 spliner. could i be wrong?
do they come with the shifters?
i think it would be a good idea for me to go to a bigger flange than 1310 so when i upgrade axles i don't have to do it anyway. make sense?

i am taking out my t-low this weekend and taking it to tera to have it replaced... then when i sell the new one (pm me if interested) and get cash i will get an atlas asap!

 

[Alabama]

Call Sams Off Road.
There phone number is in all the 4x4 mags.
My friends paid around 1850 for there 3.8s
The seam to have great prices on all AA stuff.

Steve

 

[Cody]

i am not trying to fake power, i just like the lower gears, i love my crawl ratio now with 36.5's and when i go to bigger axles and tires i don't want to lower my diffs a ton. i like the 4 cyl, it has always been good to me.

You'll only like them until you start to do hard trails where you need wheel speed.

Cody

 

[gtidrivr]

IIRC... they dont offer any sort of price break on the 5to1 Atlas. Everywhere I have seen is around that same price. but that doesn't mean things have changed since they came out. This is just what I remember...

 

[N-Smooth]

all the obstacles i did in moab were in 1st... i could always shift into 2nd or 3rd.

i can't do the wheelspeed thing anyway until i get bigger axles

 

[cruiseroutfit]

PM (or email) me the prices you get... Cruiser Outfitters has been an AA dealer for 10+ years... pretty good rates

 

[Cody]

all the obstacles i did in moab were in 1st... i could always shift into 2nd or 3rd.

i can't do the wheelspeed thing anyway until i get bigger axles

Yeah, but you did stuff like Escalator--a stock ranger can do that in first

Try the entrance to UPG with a 115:1 crawl ratio or the big tub on hells revenge.

I will agree with you, for what you have now (manual tranny, 4 angry squirrels), the 5.0 may be a good option--especially if the 4.0 you have now doesn't seem low enough. However, I think $2600 would be better spent on.......

$1900 on an atlas 3.8 w/ 1310 yokes
$700 on 4.0 and auto tranny swap (or a SB350, th350 )

****, if you're going to do it, get the t-case with a passenger drop and find a chevy 60 (cheaper than ford stuff) and save yourself money by doing all the right stuff at once.

Just my 2 pesos.

Cody

 

[gtidrivr]

Try the entrance to UPG with a 115:1 crawl ratio or the big tub on hells revenge.

Boy would I like to see that!!

 

[Herzog]

IMO, I think you will be all good with the 5.0, but I personally would go with a 4.3... but again I also run lower than normal gearing too. I'm running 5.13 in my diffs w/ the 4.3. But with my automatic it puts my final ratio out to somewhere around 84:1 or 88:1. Something like that. I spend a lot of time in 2nd and 3rd gear, but for boulder trails I love to creep'm in 1st. It's nice to have that extra low once in a while.

 

[mbryson]

IMO, I think you will be all good with the 5.0, but I personally would go with a 4.3... but again I also run lower than normal gearing too. I'm running 5.13 in my diffs w/ the 4.3. But with my automatic it puts my final ratio out to somewhere around 84:1 or 88:1. Something like that. I spend a lot of time in 2nd and 3rd gear, but for boulder trails I love to creep'm in 1st. It's nice to have that extra low once in a while.

Low would be cool. I'm running 4.88's with a 242 and 35" MT/R's and want a 4.3 Atlas for the next rig (running 4.56 and a TBI small block, probably a 241 for now).

 

[gtidrivr]

I wish my rig was still together... xj Punk you need to get a ride from someone with a 115:1 ratio and someone with like a 80 or 85:1 ratio. I would be willing to bet you'll like the latter alot more! You can always go slower with the 85:1 with an auto but you can never go faster with 115:1... (not literally, but with in reason) Just my $.02 also.

 

[N-Smooth]

my 4.0 is pretty low for the tire size and everything i am running now, but i am going to get bigger tires and possibly a new rear end in the future. the 44 front might be there for a while

i am probably not going to build my current rig into a compworthy 1 ton, that will probably be a full tube chassy with a bigger motor, so the 5.0 will be useless to me then, but i am sure i can sell it for a good amount after using it for a while.

the main reason i choose the 5.0 is that it is not much more than a 4.3 and it supposedly comes with the bigger shaft. and i like low gearing, being a manual i can just put it in 3rd if i need wheelspin
in moab i had it in 2nd quite a bit, but 1st is way nice when you are doing something tough.
105:1 is what it will be, and that is what a lot of toy guys with dual cases and 5.29s are running... never heard them complain, but then again even my motor is more powerful than a 22r or 22re

 

[RockMonkey]

Please don't try to emulate the "Toyota guys". Ever get behind those guys on a trail?

When your transmission grenades (and it will, cuz it's a Jeep), are you gonna replace it with another stick, or are you gonna upgrade to an auto? If there's a chance you will swap in an auto don't go with the 5:1. 4.3 or even 3.8 will be closer to the sweet spot. Mine's a 3.8 and everyone tells me I'm too low...

 

[mbryson]

.................. a 3.8 and everyone tells me I'm too low...

I like how low yours is. Yours seems about right to me. Aren't you running about 5.89's or something?