jeep-N-montero
Formerly black_ZJ
- Location
- Bountiful
Last I checked, my savings account held enough to buy a nicely built rig with cash if I chose to, have zero balance on a Visa Platinum, and have about 2 months of food on the shelf. Thanks though!
the end is near.......
- Thread starter GOAT
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Last I checked, my savings account held enough to buy a nicely built rig with cash if I chose to, have zero balance on a Visa Platinum, and have about 2 months of food on the shelf. Thanks though!
GOAT
Back from the beyond
- Location
- Roanoke, VA
On what island? Surely you can't be referring to Haiti as it was f'd from the day it was colonized by the french.
Having lived through several major hurricanes, I can say it can be a little intimidating when you haven't had electricity or water for several days. We never went without though as everyone came together to help one another.
We'll see what actually works when the earthquake hits. I'm apparently directly on the fault-line
jeep-N-montero
Formerly black_ZJ
- Location
- Bountiful
When 911 was blasting over every form of media, bottled water and can goods were flying off the shelves here in Utah, similar stories in other states too.. An event that didn't even have a direct impact on us shot gas prices up and made a noticible impact on our stores. What happens when an earthquake rocks the Wasatch Front or a small volcano works over Idaho? I'm not advocating you all need to have months worth of food/water, etc but a weeks worth would have made situations like Katrina far more bearable for all.
Ultimately its our own discretion to plan, but I can tell reading through this thread which ones I would want as neighbors and which ones will start their Sunday night rant threads about how the government isn't helping them fast enough
Speaking of, does everyone have a backup plan for accessing RME in event of a widespread power outage or catastrophe?
Hmmm, trick question there. A 3000 watt generator would handle the power, but I don't have a satellite card. My internet is just through a router in the house.
GOAT
Back from the beyond
- Location
- Roanoke, VA
jeep-N-montero
Formerly black_ZJ
- Location
- Bountiful
well what are you waiting for???????
Ummm, yeah, some of us actually enjoy living without debt. Sorry if I don't spend every penny I earn on a depreciating pile of metal, but I still take 3 or 4 trips to Moab each year and enjoy my other toys.
- Location
- Sandy, Ut
9-11 happens 2200 miles from here and bottled water and gas prices spike here in Utah. Montreal announces a police strike and within hours looting has begun. Katrina hits and looting starts immediately. Even if you had piles of cash you were forced to either hit the road or rely on your own supplies as help was several days out and stores didn't exactly have much stock left
I'm not even going to begin planning for scenarios like Haiti, I'm considering scenarios that have reasonably been predicted to impact Utah.
Hurrianes are rather minor in shear comparison to things like a volcano or earthquake. I'm really think 1 week of supplies is ideal, anything more than that would be for the 'out of work' scenario more than an emergency.
We'll see what actually works when the earthquake hits. I'm apparently directly on the fault-line
And your the ones I expect to be on the 6 o-clock news bitc*ing about how the government hasn't done enough to make you comfortable
GOAT
Back from the beyond
- Location
- Roanoke, VA
Don't take it personal, just making an observation and a friendly jab.
Guess I have no excuse not to make that long term food storage purchase at wal-mart.......which was the purpose of this thread. Pointing out the irony of a global wal-mart offering a utah-based bulk food manufacturer with a giant sign reading PREPAREDNESS.
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GOAT
Back from the beyond
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- Roanoke, VA
9-11 happens 2200 miles from here and bottled water and gas prices spike here in Utah. Montreal announces a police strike and within hours looting has begun. Katrina hits and looting starts immediately. Even if you had piles of cash you were forced to either hit the road or rely on your own supplies as help was several days out and stores didn't exactly have much stock left
I'm not even going to begin planning for scenarios like Haiti, I'm considering scenarios that have reasonably been predicted to impact Utah.
Hurrianes are rather minor in shear comparison to things like a volcano or earthquake. I'm really think 1 week of supplies is ideal, anything more than that would be for the 'out of work' scenario more than an emergency.
And your the ones I expect to be on the 6 o-clock news bitc*ing about how the government hasn't done enough to make you comfortable
During one hurricane the house I lived in flooded up to the third floor, and we lost most of everything. The neighborhood was wiped out and people in the townships died. Not that minor to those having lived through it.
Oh, and I've only been on the TV news once, and it was me commenting on the meaning of the 50th anniversary of VJ, and my experience that day meeting bush SR. Man, where in the hell have I been???
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GOAT
Back from the beyond
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- Roanoke, VA
I just want Kurt & Marcus to keep debating, this is fun.
just wait till it spills out at a U4 meeting.....CHAOS ERUPTS on a level that even meat couldn't surpass
GOAT
Back from the beyond
- Location
- Roanoke, VA
That food will be more valuable than the American dollar.
no shiat.........
Gotta stick some gold in that storage pantry along with any habit forming prescription drugs that will become ever more valuable.....now we're talking, utah!!
just wanting to have a little fun in these threads...read tongue in cheek
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- Location
- Sandy, Ut
You didn't give us much in the way of details so lets assume your 'neighborhood' had 5000 people, 10% of which lost homes and 20% of roads in and out were impassable for up to 3 days. Contrast that against a predicted quake in SLC. Predicted that up to 38% of buildings in the valley would have moderate damage, 62,000 would need shelter immediately, expect all landlines and cell phones to be down for days. 80 percent would have power back in 30 days, the rest could be months. Water would take longer. "A 7.0 quake hitting in the middle of the night, for instance at 2 a.m., would cause the most casualties: an estimated 2,920 dead, another 1,480 with life-threatening injuries, another 9,360 with non-life-threatening injuries but still needing hospitalization". So in the SL Valley, 1 in 500 is dead, 1 in 1000 is critically injured, and 1 in 150 needs hospitalization. Easy you say, the valleys roads are 50% open, major east-west thoroughfares are damaged, bridges across the Jordan River collapsed and 3 - 9 ft ledges have many surface streets impassable. I'd say my hurricane scenario being 'minor' comparison is pretty just
Now look at the earthquake scientists predict is due for the Wasatch Front (and many other similar metro areas)
From the USGS:
"The Wasatch Range, with its outstanding ski areas, runs North-South through Utah, and like all mountain ranges it was produced by a series of earthquakes. The 386 km (240-mile)-long Wasatch Fault is made up of several segments, each capable of producing up to a M7.5 earthquake. During the past 6,000 years, there has been a M6.5+ about once every 350 years, and it has been about 350 years since the last powerful earthquake, which was on the Nephi segment. "
Thems er' bettin' odds.
Now, don't get me wrong, hurricanes have the propensity to be very dangerous and damaging, yet the odds of one happening to a specific metro area don't rank up there with the 1 in 7 odds of a major quake in Utah. However if I lived in hurricane country, tornado country, blizzard country or zombie country for that matter, I would be prepared. Utah is not the only state urging this preparedness and in fact I'd bet you'll find most states do.
Of greater concern and almost more telling is the fact you shop at Walmart lol.
solidfrontaxle
Toyota jihad
- Location
- Casper, Wyoming
Of greater concern and almost more telling is the fact you shop at Walmart lol.
Oh SNAP!
And it's Kurt for the win!
- Location
- Sandy, Ut
Been trying to find Goat on the Walmart customer database:
http://www.peopleofwalmart.com
No Goat yet but I did find Tacoma
I'll keep looking.
- Location
- West Jordan
Been trying to find Goat on the Walmart customer database:
http://www.peopleofwalmart.com
No Goat yet but I did find Tacoma
I'll keep looking.
Tacoma is lookin good!
GOAT
Back from the beyond
- Location
- Roanoke, VA
You didn't give us much in the way of details so lets assume your 'neighborhood' had 5000 people, 10% of which lost homes and 20% of roads in and out were impassable for up to 3 days. Contrast that against a predicted quake in SLC. Predicted that up to 38% of buildings in the valley would have moderate damage, 62,000 would need shelter immediately, expect all landlines and cell phones to be down for days. 80 percent would have power back in 30 days, the rest could be months. Water would take longer. "A 7.0 quake hitting in the middle of the night, for instance at 2 a.m., would cause the most casualties: an estimated 2,920 dead, another 1,480 with life-threatening injuries, another 9,360 with non-life-threatening injuries but still needing hospitalization". So in the SL Valley, 1 in 500 is dead, 1 in 1000 is critically injured, and 1 in 150 needs hospitalization. Easy you say, the valleys roads are 50% open, major east-west thoroughfares are damaged, bridges across the Jordan River collapsed and 3 - 9 ft ledges have many surface streets impassable. I'd say my hurricane scenario being 'minor' comparison is pretty just
Now look at the earthquake scientists predict is due for the Wasatch Front (and many other similar metro areas)
From the USGS:
"The Wasatch Range, with its outstanding ski areas, runs North-South through Utah, and like all mountain ranges it was produced by a series of earthquakes. The 386 km (240-mile)-long Wasatch Fault is made up of several segments, each capable of producing up to a M7.5 earthquake. During the past 6,000 years, there has been a M6.5+ about once every 350 years, and it has been about 350 years since the last powerful earthquake, which was on the Nephi segment. "
Thems er' bettin' odds.
Now, don't get me wrong, hurricanes have the propensity to be very dangerous and damaging, yet the odds of one happening to a specific metro area don't rank up there with the 1 in 7 odds of a major quake in Utah. However if I lived in hurricane country, tornado country, blizzard country or zombie country for that matter, I would be prepared. Utah is not the only state urging this preparedness and in fact I'd bet you'll find most states do.
Of greater concern and almost more telling is the fact you shop at Walmart lol.
Earthquakes versus hurricanes. I never considered a hypothetical earthquake occurring in SLC to have a less disastrous impact or wouldn't kill more than the average 5 hurricane, don't even need to cut and paste statistics to illustrate that. These seem to be some pretty finite numbers that are focused on analyzing a completely unpredictable situation. If the above scenario did occur, and a 7.0 quake did hit, well need more than walmart supplies to stay alive. However, experts have been getting it wrong for years. I'll have to wait and see on the above predictions......well hopefully by then I'll either be dead or in another, warmer hemisphere. Bottom line, none of know wtf is going to happen. Stock up or not, wal-mart marketing terror food is still funny.
Been trying to find Goat on the Walmart customer database:
http://www.peopleofwalmart.com
No Goat yet but I did find Tacoma
I'll keep looking.
Kurt, from the looks like you found the tooele walmart on there
i was unfortunately there for this cereal as they are the only brick and mortar that seems to carry it here.
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Tacoma
Et incurventur ante non
- Location
- far enough away
Kurt-- WHAT the hell!! My legs don't look that good in a skirt hahahahahhahahah
- Location
- Sandy, Ut
Sorry, there must have been some kind of error on the Official Walmart Customer Database
I've got a confirmed match for you Tacoma
