Thinking about a new rig for exploring

thenag

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Kearns
Originally you posted something about a Bronco.

I am kind of doing the opposite, I had a built up 87 bronco, 460, d-60, gm 14 bolt, locked front/rear, 37 inch mtr's. It has been dismantled and I am building up a 99 cherokee.

Anyway some thoughts on the Bronco;
The last bronco made was in 1996, they did get pretty comfortable in the last few years, the 351 made good power. For an auto the E4OD was the better transmission. For a stick they never really got a good 5 speed. (had a np 435 up to about 87 but that is a 4 speed) The A/C's in Broncos always seemed to kick ass.

The rear axle is a ford 8.8, it is good up to 33's, maybe 35's if you are easy on it. The rear axle can be easily swapped with a ford 10.25 which will have 8 lug axles. The 10.25 will hold up well to lots of abuse, it is not quite as strong as a gm 14 bolt, but much stronger than a stock rear d-60. The ford auto tranny uses the tone ring on the diff to shift so you are stuck using a ford rear axle with the 92-96 broncos.

The front axle is kind of a joke. It is a d-44 center with a twin traction beam suspension. The ttb front end usually starts breaking stuff and handling really poorly with anything bigger than 33's on it. Easiest thing to do is stuff a straight axle under it with leaf springs, preferable a d-60 from the same rig as the ford 10.25. The ttb does have a pretty big following for pre-runner type stuff it can be made to do speed well but for crawling it doesn't seem to work out very well. The ttb outers can be swapped with gm 8-lug d-44 stuff to make the ttb 8 lug (this is pretty cheap to do).

Overall if you can live with a 2 door and want a vehicle that old, a bronco isn't a horrible choice. You would be hard pressed to find another vehicle that has a comfortable place for 4 people to sit and a lot of gear. And you can find mid 90's Broncos for cheap.

You might want to look at k5 Blazers I think they made them up to early 90's, they have a straight d-44 up front, TBI 350, TH350, 1-ton axle swap is just about bolt in, but I don't think they ever got as comfortable as the Broncos, but they are more easily and cheaply modified.

With a full size rig you will probably bang sheet metal all over the place, I did.

Pretty much anything you pick will be more comfortable for 4 people than a cherokee, there are only a few vehicles smaller than xj's, my 2dr civic has more leg room front and rear than the xj...

Nathan
 

thenag

Registered User
Location
Kearns
The other vehicle you might look into is a Dodge Durango.

I have never been in one but I would bet they are pretty comfortable, there is probably enough after market support to do what you want. I am sure there are people that build them up and wheel them.

I see a 2000 ish Dakota running around with a straight axle under it so a SAS can be done.

I bet the price of them is pretty reasonable since there are a lot of them.

Nathan
 

lenny

formerly known as PokeyYJ
Location
Bountiful, UT
What about a 1994-1999 Land Rover Discovery? The are comfortable, can be built for heavy offroad use very easily, can seat 7 people. The 3 I have owned have all been fantastic vehicles, the only downside to them is they are underpowered from the factory. Anything bigger than a 32" tire will require regearing to maintain speed up canyons. I don't believe in the hype that they are expensive to maintain or upgrade either, ALL of my Land Rovers have been cheaper to build and to operate that both of my Wranglers were.
 

SAMI

Formerly Beardy McGee
Location
SLC, UT
Have you thought about one of these?

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Cody

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Gastown
96-98 Grand Cherokee gets my vote, great wheelbase and are cheap to lift.

I agree for the most part, unless you're looking at lifts over 4.5" and 33's. Go much bigger than that and you're asking to tip over a dumpster of worms.
 

roverrocks

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Location
Montose,CO
What about a 1994-1999 Land Rover Discovery? The are comfortable, can be built for heavy offroad use very easily, can seat 7 people. The 3 I have owned have all been fantastic vehicles, the only downside to them is they are underpowered from the factory. Anything bigger than a 32" tire will require regearing to maintain speed up canyons. I don't believe in the hype that they are expensive to maintain or upgrade either, ALL of my Land Rovers have been cheaper to build and to operate that both of my Wranglers were.
x2 on the Discos. I've enjoyed my 97 mightily and it's been very durable over all. Very comfortable off-road and on. Huge windows for great viewing. Very underpowered in high gear of course but an excellent engine in low. Been a great truck for short expeditions and general wandering/exploring.
 
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