tire width???
- Thread starter leorn
- Start date
James K
NO, I'm always like this
- Location
- Taylorsville, Ut
Herzog said:I run 38x12.5 and have no desire to go wider.
same
greenjeep
Cause it's green, duh!
- Location
- Moab Local!
I think he wants to know WHY not wider.
94redtoy
short bus
- Location
- Salt Lake City
hey i dont wanna hijack the post, but have you put in your lockers, and set up your gears yet? im in the process of putting mine in, and the wiring is a sunuvabitch. let me know if you need any help with it.
- Location
- South Carolina....no public land
leorn said:
No, but more footprint (with the proper compounding) will give more grip. Thus the reason for dropping pressure. Dropping the pressure actually does a couple of things. It allows the tire to flex over the rock (stump, whatever - giving more contact area) and it spreads the load on a longer and slightly wider footprint. This of course makes a big difference as probably most on this board already know.
94redtoy said:
haven't got ahold of the guy i know yet. really it just needs to be done by easter. i haven't found a trail in northern utah that i need lockers for. i want to get them in though. i bet i've called the guy 10 times and have yet to get anyone home. i might have to give you a call on fri to check out how things are going. i want to see how you did the housing.
94redtoy
short bus
- Location
- Salt Lake City
leorn said:
yeah the housing looks pretty good, cept its hard to drill the holes straight without a drill press. im waiting on getting my pinion back from the machinist, im an idiot and pounded it out with a hammer, and ****ed up the threads. my truck is stock 4.56, wish i woulda known that earlier, but oh well. were goin to moab fri night, dont know your plans and i know its short notice, but its be sick if you could come down. yeah were on fall break so give me a call anytime.
this thread is oficially hijacked!
hey man i'll have to get my gears done so i can at least give you some matching 4.30s or 4.10s. i'll get buggin the guy.
wish i could go to to moab. i do need a little notice to get my job off, i could even score a place to stay free! anyway we'll have to scedule another trip.
oh the other problem is i'm getting a new head gasket, heater core and radiator. so i could drive my moms mazda 929! anyways have fun on the trip
94redtoy said:
hey man i'll have to get my gears done so i can at least give you some matching 4.30s or 4.10s. i'll get buggin the guy.
wish i could go to to moab. i do need a little notice to get my job off, i could even score a place to stay free! anyway we'll have to scedule another trip.
oh the other problem is i'm getting a new head gasket, heater core and radiator. so i could drive my moms mazda 929! anyways have fun on the trip
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rockstacker
Registered User
- Location
- colorado
Tire width
Common Question, the wider the tire the more it loads the sidewall which causes instability in turning and side hilling. For example you are on an off camber hill and stop and start to turn up hill, As you ease the vehicle foward the first thing the tire does is unload the twist you put in it, this causes the tire to "scrub" the rock impeading traction. With an ultra wide tire on bead locks and aired down you can turn the rim a couple inches inside the tire before the contact patch moves. This is not good for accurate turning.
Common Question, the wider the tire the more it loads the sidewall which causes instability in turning and side hilling. For example you are on an off camber hill and stop and start to turn up hill, As you ease the vehicle foward the first thing the tire does is unload the twist you put in it, this causes the tire to "scrub" the rock impeading traction. With an ultra wide tire on bead locks and aired down you can turn the rim a couple inches inside the tire before the contact patch moves. This is not good for accurate turning.
I thought inaccurate turnning was more a function of side wall height/stiffness than tread width. the
rockstacker said:Common Question, the wider the tire the more it loads the sidewall which causes instability in turning and side hilling. For example you are on an off camber hill and stop and start to turn up hill, As you ease the vehicle foward the first thing the tire does is unload the twist you put in it, this causes the tire to "scrub" the rock impeading traction. With an ultra wide tire on bead locks and aired down you can turn the rim a couple inches inside the tire before the contact patch moves. This is not good for accurate turning.
Kyle said:
I will agree with that to a point...the idea is correct but take it to an extreme...air the tires WAY up so they are crowning, now you are on only a lug or two in contact, so based on that principle you should have awesome traction but in reality you have damn near no traction
there is a point that more footprint is better than less...but as you pointed out the super wide is not where its at (they were Toyos though, so you had that working against ya )
- Location
- South Carolina....no public land
and compounding is huge when you're talking traction. your theory about less pressure from each block I can't argue with, but the total traction is a function of the total area in contact with the ground, the load on that total area and the rubber mix.
So, if you were running tire A with a width of 15.5 and tire B with a width of say 13.5 (or 12.5 or whatever), you can't really make a judgement solely on the width of the tire unless the compounding is exactly the same. And, if you're talking brand A vs Brand B, the compound is definately different.
So, if you were running tire A with a width of 15.5 and tire B with a width of say 13.5 (or 12.5 or whatever), you can't really make a judgement solely on the width of the tire unless the compounding is exactly the same. And, if you're talking brand A vs Brand B, the compound is definately different.