Tourist+Commander+Elephant Hill=Fail

[stevej]

Funny thing is, back in the day (70's and 80's), we used to run this trail in completely bone stock rigs with street tires. That was even before the Park Service paved parts of it making it easier. We had a Scout (Traveler or Travelall, can't remember exact name), a CJ-5, and a 2wd Volkswagen Kit Buggy. Yes 2wd, and it ran up and down Elephant Hill dozens of times. My point being I don't feel street tires are the end-all culprit here. A Commander is more than capable of that trail. This situation boils down to driver error and a little bad luck in my mind.

Back in the day, (I ran this trial 30 years ago for my very first 4x4 experience) a modified 4x4 was a 3" lift and 31 or 33 inch tires. I ran this trail several times then and every vehicle I saw was stock with 29" tires or smaller. My toyota had I think 27's or 28's.

 

[zkeys]

lol....sorry man, just my opinion of the trail. I've been on it for almost 30 years and have seen how it used to be

Hehe, no worries man, just giving you crap!

 

[surgeryturtle]

For those of you interested in the Commander, it was not on the trail when we ran it Friday. It's probably back at the rental company getting the scratches buffed out.