waynes world question

I don't know if Eagles Nest has gotten smaller or maybe it just seems smaller now, (kind of like if you go look at your old elementary school it seems so small now...) I have never tried to drive it.

Anyway to throw in my .02 about WW...

I had a full size bronco with a d60 and 14 bolt 37 mtrs, I put those axles and tires under an xj. I had the axles narrowed, the rear 2 inches on each side and the front about 3 inches on each side. The bronco was about 6500 lbs trail weight, and before WW was as smooth as glass (6 years ago) my bronco did not drive up the thing, I could never drive up the thing in the bronco. The bronco had a 460 and 110:1 crawl ratio.

The xj goes up WW pretty easy so long as it is dry, I could probably hammer it when wet and get up it.

The differences between the two vehicles:
Weight (I know my xj is heavy, but I bet it is around 5000lbs loaded)
Suspension, leafs to links (the xj has links front and rear the bronco was leafs all around, this is a topic for another thread but I think this has a lot to do with it, how many leaf sprung vehicles walk WW?)
width, but only 3 inches on each side, however this is huge on WW being 6 inches more to the right on the first ledge is very helpful.
Wheel base, xj 101, bronco 104

same driver, same lockers, same tires,

so for what it is worth there ya go...

(I also believe that xj's are perfect size for WW I have seen a couple stock-ish xj's crawl WW and very built tj's not make it...)

nathan
99 xj with stuff
 
well this is a video of the very first time i had ever seen ww the yoda was STIFF leafs all four corners very little travel and just regular old shackels lockers front and back whom ever built the rig to start with had put one wheel space on the right front to even out the wheel track so the front was 2 1/2 inches wider on the front than stock and stock 14 bolt in the rear since this i have done ww one other time same set up just softer spring no i have basicaly change everything streached to 123 wb centerd the frontend so it is 2 1/2 narrower same rearend same tires same lockers four link on the rear with a self designed eliptical suspention but havent put it on WW yet [video=youtube;ahXUdfNFQp4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahXUdfNFQp4[/video]
 
Ok everyone else is giving their 2 cents so here is mine. The first time drove WW was in my somewhat stretched CJ-7 (99"), full width D60 front and Full width 14 bolt rear, wide 38" tires and leaf springs on all four corners. Walked right up after watching two buggies have the hardest time, one broke and the other played for 10 min or so before getting up. Since then I have stretched the CJ to 110", 42" tires, linked with coil over’s at all four corners and it still walks right up. I have seen rigs of all sizes and shapes have a hard time and the same walk right up. It comes down to how well you know your rig and what line it likes and then if you are good enough behind the wheel to recognize what your rig wants. Last of all, tires are huge on WW. If you have sticky’s, the line you pick may or may not be right for you rig, but it will still go up without any problem (Most of the time). All other tires are not built the same, it really comes down which tire, as to how narrow or wide your line is. As others have said, you can't build the perfect vehicle for every obstacle, just build what you can afford and go play with it. The more you play with it the more you learn what lines your rig likes and what lines it doesn't like. Just because the vehicle before you made it look easy on one line, doesn't mean that line will work for you. I gave 4 cents, so if someone has change :)
 
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All I know is that I can't touch it when it is wet but when it is dry I can manage it pretty well. I also spotted my friend in his YJ, stock wheel base few inches of lift and 33 with only a rear locker up it. I also manged to get a super nice LJ up it with around 115 inch wheel base. He got stuck near the top but he eventually got it. Here is myself and a friend in his blazer doing it today. We both made it up then decided to do it a second time for the camera.

[video=youtube;r1CEVrwsSLI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1CEVrwsSLI[/video]


[video=youtube;RkvTLn6ot2g]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkvTLn6ot2g[/video]
 
here's ww in 09


and Eagles Nest
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if anything, the undercut has gotten bigger
 
I was out there yesterday and two TJ's walked up it both on 35's and one running open open. My rubi on 35's couldn't get it, my longer wheelbase caused my front to start dropping into the hole above the first ledge just as my rear was starting to climb. It was just too slick and to much for the JK yesterday, I'll get it done on a better day.
 
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