What are they teaching them in school

DaveB

Long Jeep Fan
Location
Holladay, Utah
First, are you sure the students weren't playing with the "rights to bare arms" analogy? I don't know any of my kids friends that would be serious about that, but a lot of them would think it was a funny twist.

It is possible they were messing around but my friends daughter thought they were serious and she knows the kids. This post has generated quite a bit of dialog about teachers, I know they have a tough job, my dad was a teacher. He took early retirement when Bangeter offered it because he was tired of fighting apathy and administrators that were forcing him to change his very good programs. He taught wood shop, metal shop, and small engine repair and they were forcing him to replace it with the TLC program. My kids did the TLC program and it was a waste of time. My dad tried to get his replacement spun up so he knew more but he wouldn't spend any of his time to do it. My dad would always stay after school to help the kids but after he left the program fell apart. With my own kids I felt like they had too many days off and never had enough homework. Quite often I had to tutor them especially in math and they would often ask why is this stuff important ? Usually all I to do was show them a paractical application and they would work harder at it. I agree completely with everyone who has said that the parents are key to their kids success.
 

Medsker

2024 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Rubicon 392
Location
Herriman, UT
The debate of education has been and always will be a hot topic. I have several teachers in my family, some from public school and some from private. We've discussed the subject at length and pretty much come to the conclusion that it boils down to people believing that education is a right instead of a privilege. The United Nations drafted it as a right but it says no where in the Bill of Rights to my knowledge that we as citizens have education as a right...it is our privilege to go to school and to be able to learn. Until people, including government officials, superintendents, teachers, parents and especially students see education as a privilege it will continue to degrade.

I also feel students should be taught to their ability, not to their age. Students get bored because they are not learning. You have a 8 year old (third grade) that is intelligent enough in math to be in 6th grade math but because of the system we use she has to put up with being bored in 3rd grade math. The teacher of 3rd grade math has to teach at a 2nd grade level for the people in the class that are at the 2nd grade level (you have to teach to the lowest common denominator so all students understand) and so the class becomes easy or boring for most of the class. If they put students in classes according to their ability then students would excel at the talents they have (i.e. math kids would get the learning they need, art kids would get the learning they need etc.). This happens at all school levels including college. The only way I see around it right now is to home school which I personally feel robs the child of a lot of social activities.

Anyway there is my two cents which isn't even worth that :D

Medsker
 

Tacoma

Et incurventur ante non
Location
far enough away
We homeschool, but Tooele has a pretty big homeschooling group, that gets together. My kids also have friends from church, and in the neighborhood. I don't think they're missing anything, socially, except that the bad habits they don't learn are really missed. :D NOT!

But again, I went to a decent public school that didn't teach me much. NOT the school's fault, it's the way the system works. And I loved all of my teachers, they did a great job teaching what they were allowed to. I graduated early. :D (sort of)
 

Medsker

2024 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Rubicon 392
Location
Herriman, UT
We homeschool, but Tooele has a pretty big homeschooling group, that gets together. My kids also have friends from church, and in the neighborhood. I don't think they're missing anything, socially, except that the bad habits they don't learn are really missed. :D NOT!

That's a great way to do it, if you can get a group together like that. Glad you found something that works.
 
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