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RockMonkey

RockMonkey

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Here is what I currently have: Front driveshaft is a Toyota flange at the axle, a Toyota CV at the carrier bearing, and a 1310 at the transfer case. Rear driveshaft is a Toyota flange at the axle, and a 1310 at the transfer case. I have never broken a 1310 joint, but on the rear I keep breaking the u-bolts that hold the joint in because the joint doesn't flex enough and it bottoms out on the bolts, squishes them, and they eventually break. I also tend to wear out the 1310 joints. They don't break, but the bearings quickly turn to dust and the caps fall off. My plan is to keep the fron exactly like it is. The 1310 there is at a constant angle (because of the carrier bearing), and I haven't had a problem with it wearing out, breaking, or breaking the bolts. The Toyota stuff on both shafts has been working great, so I'm going to leave that alone.

My question is what should I do about the joint at the rear output of the transfer case? Should I go to a Toyota joint, or a 1410? Why? Has anyone put a Toyota flange on an Atlas? Where did you get the parts? Isn't there something special you have to do to get a 1410 yoke on an Atlas? Machine it down, or something? Milner, you did that, what is involved? Where do I get the stuff?
 
Herzog

Herzog

somewhat damaged
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I've got a flange on my atlas that is drilled for 1310, Toyota, and I'm thinking 1350. I'm not 100% positive of what the larger size is.

I got the flanges from Tom Woods.
 
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fergusor

Registered User
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Clearfield, ut
toyota all the way. I run toyota flanges on the tc and axles and never had a problem with any joints. I still running the same joints that I bougth the truck with 5 years ago and the last 3 years have been in a comp buggy. They are strong and dont bind as easy as most joints. Tom Woods has the flanges for the atlas and there not that expensive, but you will more than likely have to have a spacer on the flange going out of the rear output on the tc if you us the toy because of the nut on the tc.
 
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Milner

Milner

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Yep, I have 1410 of the frt and rear output of the tcase with 1350 of both axles. I used a standard spicer yoke (yukon as repro now) and had Andy machine it. Just have to take a little off and add a taper....if you took Larry any yoke for a atlas, he could machine the new one to match. Or just get it up to Andy, he'll know what to do ;)
1410's are HUGE, make sure you have room for them. But, I love having no worries at all :D
 
RockMonkey

RockMonkey

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rckcrlr said:
1410's are HUGE, make sure you have room for them. But, I love having no worries at all :D
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Hmm... Good point. I may actually NOT have enough room. There's really no place on the whole buggy that has a lot of room. That may decide it right there.

Can anyone give me any reason NOT to go with a Toyota joint? Are all Toyota joints the same? I know there are at least two different bolt patterns on the flanges (cuz I had to drill a new pattern in one of my axle flanges). Are the joints the same, with different flanges? It would be super sweet to only have to carry one spare jhoint for everything.
 
RockMonkey

RockMonkey

Suddenly Enthusiastic
fergusor said:
toyota all the way. I run toyota flanges on the tc and axles and never had a problem with any joints. I still running the same joints that I bougth the truck with 5 years ago and the last 3 years have been in a comp buggy. They are strong and dont bind as easy as most joints. Tom Woods has the flanges for the atlas and there not that expensive, but you will more than likely have to have a spacer on the flange going out of the rear output on the tc if you us the toy because of the nut on the tc.
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A spacer, huh? You would think they would make the flanges long enough to not need a spacer. :confused: Isn't that a custom part? Toyota doesn't use anything with 32 splines, do they? So, who has a pre-machined spacer? Do I have to make one? Are the flanges Jesse @ High Angle makes any better, or do they require a spacer too?
 
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fergusor

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Location
Clearfield, ut
I think they are the same flanges. I only needed it on the rear output shaft also. If they added it to the flange they would have to add on another 3/4" or 1" to make it so the bolt is flush with the flange which would be the best way. I would call jess and see if his are different. I will take a pic off mine. Tom made the spacer for mine this time He . I made the first one that we had on seths buggie last year. I broke ALOT of toyota stuff but never a u-joint on the driveline yet.
 
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