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sixstringsteve

sixstringsteve

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Thanks for the input everyone. I am calling these tires 33s just for simplicity. Its kinda gutless right now with stock gears and 33s. So either way, I'm going to have to regrear. Since I already have 4.88s and 35s from my tacoma, that saves me about $1000 from having to regear again.

Here's my plan:

On monday pick up some ome rear springs and shocks. Sometime this week, put on the front ome lkft from the tacoma (Including ball jpints, upper control arms, diff drop, manual hub swap) and the new rear lift. At that point ill havw a good reference point to see how it sits.

So here are the pros and cons.

35s
Pros:
I already have them.
I already have the gears for them.
They look good
And extra inch of ground glearance
I get ti swap in my regular front diff (no add vacuum lines to worry about)

Cons:
Id have to tub (not a huge deal)
Theyll probably stick outside the fenders


33s
Pros:
Less drivetrain stress
They fit inside the fenders
I already have a set on.right now, so i know just how the power will be.

Cons:
I will have to regear. Thats expensive, and carl has vowed to never do a clamshell 7.5" gear install again.
I have to keep my auto disconnect Front diff.
 
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Kevin B.

Kevin B.

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I think if you know and are happy with the 35s and 4.88s, and you're confident you can tub for them without destroying your resale value, save your money and do that. I think if you're worried about eventually having trouble selling this 4runner the way you're having trouble with the Taco, regear for the 33s.

But please do let me know if that 4.88 elocker is ever for sale all by itself. ;)
 
Greg

Greg

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Good looking 4Runner Steve! I saw your future yesterday on Golden Spike... I have vids, will have to post them. It was a very clean 3rg Gen 4Runner on 35's with IFS... crawling up and down the big ledges on Golden Spike. It looked very capable and road friendly.
 
sixstringsteve

sixstringsteve

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UT
Kevin B. said:
I think if you know and are happy with the 35s and 4.88s, and you're confident you can tub for them without destroying your resale value, save your money and do that. I think if you're worried about eventually having trouble selling this 4runner the way you're having trouble with the Taco, regear for the 33s.
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I'm not worried about resale. There are a few reasons the taco isn't selling, and it's not the 35's. The taco isn't selling because it's a 2-door, 2-seater (well, 4 kinda). A 4runner on 35's should have zero issues selling. Same with a 4runner on 33's. The 4 doors and 5 seats make it vehicle that's much more marketable. But I'm not even thinking about that right now, I don't enjoy buying and selling rigs. I enjoy wheelig them and going new places in them.



Greg said:
Good looking 4Runner Steve! I saw your future yesterday on Golden Spike... I have vids, will have to post them. It was a very clean 3rg Gen 4Runner on 35's with IFS... crawling up and down the big ledges on Golden Spike. It looked very capable and road friendly.
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Thanks Greg! I'd love to see some videos of that rig, it might be just what I need to help me decide. I think 35's on a runner just look right.

If I do end up going with 35's, I'm going to want to install an ARB front locker, for the sake of stronger spider gears. Plus it won't hurt to have a front locker on the nasty stuff. :D

I don't ever want to do a trail harder than Golden Spike. I think if I had 35's, the Rubicon would be easier and I'd be less likely to have body damage.

Now I just need to come up with a name for it so I can start a build thread.
 
sixstringsteve

sixstringsteve

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UT
Here are the plans:

OME 2" lift (300lb+ springs in the rear)
CBI rear bumper (probably get a swing-out tire option eventually)
TG sliders (already have 'em)
manual hub conversion - ADD delete
Specialty Products UCA (from Abner)
Cornfed Diff Drop
Budbuilt skids - reinforced belly skid
Rock Lights (from Abner)
Helton hot shower (from Abner)
lots and lots of gas for future trips.
 
4biker

4biker

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I liked what you put in your first post: put skinny 33's, OME lift, bumper and winch (of course that's what I have, so I'm biased). I love my 255/85's. They're taller than 285's, don't have the same rubbing issues (so I sold my wheel spacers), have very little road noise, and are lighter. They also run about $220 apiece on Tirerack and Amazon Prime. I pulled a 1200+lb tent trailer to the very-high Uintas twice this year and returned about 17.5mpg, as opposed to 14-15mpg with 265/75/16's and stock 4.30's in previous years (not to mention it was a total dog on the freeway the whole time before). If you go with 35's, I'd definitely suggest 5.29's. Skippy set up my clamshell front, and did a great job at it, for not much money. If you were to separate your wheels/tires some guy with a duramax would love the 17" tires and those rims would sell easily to someone on here. Here is Scotty's thread on YT about the trans gears and diff gears. I liked his reasoning, but ended up going with more conservative 4.88's.

Also, if you go with 35's, I'd strongly recommend doing the Tundra brake upgrade. That's a LOT more rotating mass than it came with from the factory.

Regardless, I know this rig will be well-used! Good luck with the build! Let me know what rear coils you go with - I'm looking to move up to 890 or 891's and would like to see how they work for you (I assume you'll get one of those).
 
sixstringsteve

sixstringsteve

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so you're running 4.88s with 255/85s?

I ran 4.88s on my double-cab tacoma and it seemed perfect. I'd be afraid that 4.88s would be too low for 33's.
 
sixstringsteve

sixstringsteve

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hm... if 4.88s work well with 33's, then that answers my question. Anyone running 4.88s with 33s in their automatic 3rd gen runner?
 
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4biker

4biker

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Yeah - if you look at a gear calculator it's almost identical to stock rpm range with 33's and 4.88's. Scott Brady over on ExPo actually ran 5.29's with 33's on his old taco automatic. For the auto trans 4.88's are the way to go. The 3.4L is most comfortable between 2500 and 3100rpm so it doesn't bog down and drop onto the torque converter every time you hit a slight incline. I pm'd SOAZ on ExPo, and spoke with Kurt when I was deciding. They both suggested I'd be happiest with 4.88's. The manual is a totally different story, since 5th is WAY lower than the OD on the auto tranny. 4.88's with the auto transmission and 33's is almost exactly the same as 4.30's and 33's with the manual. Can you tell I obsessed over this for weeks before I pulled the trigger? :D
 
sixstringsteve

sixstringsteve

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UT
Small update: I got to see Kurt's 100 series today. Killer rig, absolutely amazing. That being said, I don't think a 100 series is the right rig for me, especially right now. That rig is amazing, but it's a lot bigger than I need, and I'd never be able to build one up the way I'd like to. I was scared I'd see it and realize I made a mistake buying my runner. Not the case, my Runner rocks. I love it.
 
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sixstringsteve

sixstringsteve

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UT
I think that's a great tire size. I can't decide if I'd like to move up to 17s when I replace my tires. I have a soft spot for the tundra/sequoia wheels, and they're only in a 17" variety.

The 285/75 and the 255/85 are both great options. I've got the 288s on right now and they just look perfect. I like the look of the width, but I think 255's would be great as well, and less rubbing. I'm going to need new tires in the next few months, mine are cupped pretty bad. I'm leaning towards 288s for looks alone (I know, I know), but 255s aren't out of the question either.
 
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