James K
NO, I'm always like this
- Location
- Taylorsville, Ut
wtf is wrong with some people.
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Skylinerider
Wandering the desert
- Location
- Ephraim
It says I need an AOL screen name to access the page 
Brett
Meat-Hippy
- Location
- Salt Lake City Utah
skylinerider said:
Same
James K
NO, I'm always like this
- Location
- Taylorsville, Ut
BIRCHWOOD, Wis. (Nov. 22) -- A deer hunter killed five people and wounded three more in a dispute over a hunting platform on private property during the opening weekend of deer season, authorities said.
A 36-year-old man was arrested Sunday afternoon when he came out of the woods, sheriff's officials said.
Deputy Jake Hodgkinson identified the suspect as Chai Vang but would give no details. Vang is from St. Paul, Minn., said Paul Schnell, a spokesman for the St. Paul police department.
AP
A police officer interviews witnesses near the scene of Sunday's deadly hunting dispute near Hayward, Wis.
The shooting started when two hunters returning to their rural cabin on private land saw the suspect in one of their hunting platforms in a tree, Sawyer County Chief Deputy Tim Zeigle said. Hunters often build platforms in trees in order to be able to view prey and shoot from a high angle.
Both of those hunters were wounded and one of them radioed friends at the cabin a quarter-mile away. Other members of their group responded and they also were shot, he said.
''It's absolutely nuts. Why? Over sitting in a tree stand?'' asked Zeigle.
Zeigle said the suspect was ''chasing after them and killing them,'' with a SKS 7.62 mm semiautomatic rifle, a common hunting weapon. Wisconsin's statewide deer gun hunting season started Saturday and lasts for nine days.
About 20 shots were fired but it was unclear if any of the hunters had fired at the suspect or who might have shot first, Zeigle said. There was just one gun among the eight people killed or wounded, he said.
The dead included a a teenage boy and a woman, and a father and son, Zeigle said. Some of the victims were shot more than once. All five were from the Rice Lake area, about 15 miles southwest of Birchwood in the northwestern part of the state, he said.
Authorities found two bodies near each other and the others were scattered over 100 yards.
The suspect, who did not have a compass, got lost in the woods and two other hunters who didn't know about the shootings helped him find his way out, Zeigle said.
The man was arrested when he emerged from the woods and a Department of Natural Resources officer recognized the deer license on his back from a description given by one of the shooting victims, Zeigle said.
The man was out of ammunition, he said.
One of the injured hunters was in critical condition at St. Joseph's Hospital. Another was listed in serious condition and the third was in fair condition, both at Lakeview Medical Center.
Hunter Bill Wagner, 72, of Oshkosh, was about two miles away near Deer Lake with a party of about 20 other hunters when they heard sirens, planes and helicopters and discovered roads in the area had been barricaded.
''When you're hunting you don't expect somebody to try to shoot you and murder you,'' Wagner said. ''You have no idea who is coming up to you.''
''We're all old, dyed-in-wool hunters,'' he said. ''We wouldn't go home because of this, but we will keep it in our minds. We're not forgetting it.''
A 36-year-old man was arrested Sunday afternoon when he came out of the woods, sheriff's officials said.
Deputy Jake Hodgkinson identified the suspect as Chai Vang but would give no details. Vang is from St. Paul, Minn., said Paul Schnell, a spokesman for the St. Paul police department.
AP
A police officer interviews witnesses near the scene of Sunday's deadly hunting dispute near Hayward, Wis.
The shooting started when two hunters returning to their rural cabin on private land saw the suspect in one of their hunting platforms in a tree, Sawyer County Chief Deputy Tim Zeigle said. Hunters often build platforms in trees in order to be able to view prey and shoot from a high angle.
Both of those hunters were wounded and one of them radioed friends at the cabin a quarter-mile away. Other members of their group responded and they also were shot, he said.
''It's absolutely nuts. Why? Over sitting in a tree stand?'' asked Zeigle.
Zeigle said the suspect was ''chasing after them and killing them,'' with a SKS 7.62 mm semiautomatic rifle, a common hunting weapon. Wisconsin's statewide deer gun hunting season started Saturday and lasts for nine days.
About 20 shots were fired but it was unclear if any of the hunters had fired at the suspect or who might have shot first, Zeigle said. There was just one gun among the eight people killed or wounded, he said.
The dead included a a teenage boy and a woman, and a father and son, Zeigle said. Some of the victims were shot more than once. All five were from the Rice Lake area, about 15 miles southwest of Birchwood in the northwestern part of the state, he said.
Authorities found two bodies near each other and the others were scattered over 100 yards.
The suspect, who did not have a compass, got lost in the woods and two other hunters who didn't know about the shootings helped him find his way out, Zeigle said.
The man was arrested when he emerged from the woods and a Department of Natural Resources officer recognized the deer license on his back from a description given by one of the shooting victims, Zeigle said.
The man was out of ammunition, he said.
One of the injured hunters was in critical condition at St. Joseph's Hospital. Another was listed in serious condition and the third was in fair condition, both at Lakeview Medical Center.
Hunter Bill Wagner, 72, of Oshkosh, was about two miles away near Deer Lake with a party of about 20 other hunters when they heard sirens, planes and helicopters and discovered roads in the area had been barricaded.
''When you're hunting you don't expect somebody to try to shoot you and murder you,'' Wagner said. ''You have no idea who is coming up to you.''
''We're all old, dyed-in-wool hunters,'' he said. ''We wouldn't go home because of this, but we will keep it in our minds. We're not forgetting it.''
Brett
Meat-Hippy
- Location
- Salt Lake City Utah
I've thought about doing that to most of the people on this......er.....probably shouldn't say that. Now you know my secret!!!
Anyway, yeah, that's pretty damn crazy. That guy just seriously tripped out! I'm all for the electric chair on him.
Anyway, yeah, that's pretty damn crazy. That guy just seriously tripped out! I'm all for the electric chair on him.
Spork
Tin Foil Hat Equipped
- Location
- Saratoga Springs, UT
Time to take the guns away form the deer hunters...
wait a second...
wait a second...
Skylinerider
Wandering the desert
- Location
- Ephraim
That guy is seriously unhinged. Someones village is missing their idiot.
richpblaze
Registered User
- Location
- Stansbury Park, Utah
Kill him
They should let the survivors have there own private hunt.
They should let the survivors have there own private hunt.
brian
got fro?
- Location
- pagosa springs , colorado
...WTF??.... ....hang'em !!.....
....hang'em !!..... 
Chiksic
Resident Stoner
- Location
- a cloud of smoke
omg ............. that's messed
............. that's messed
James K
NO, I'm always like this
- Location
- Taylorsville, Ut
more.
Updated: 09:09 AM EST
Suspect's Relatives Shocked by Hunting Rampage
Wounded Hunter Dies in Hospital, Raising Toll to Six
By JOSHUA FREED and ROBERT IMRIE, AP
BIRCHWOOD, Wis. (Nov. 23) -- Relatives of a man being held in the deadly shooting of six deer hunters say they are just as stunned and bewildered by the incident as authorities investigating the case.
Thick glass prevented Chai Vang from any contact with family members during a brief visit Monday at Sawyer County Jail. They spoke via telephone, mixing English with the native language of Hmong immigrants from Laos.
''I still don't believe it,'' the suspect's brother, Sang Vang, said. ''He is one of the nicest persons. ... Maybe something provoked him or something. He is a reasonable person.''
Charges had not been filed against 36-year-old Chai Vang, of St. Paul, Minn., as of Monday night.
Vang is accused of opening fire on several hunters Sunday with a semiautomatic assault rifle, leaving six people dead and two wounded, authorities said.
''I just don't think any of this makes sense,'' Sawyer County Sheriff Jim Meier said.
Meier told reporters a dispute over Vang's use of a tree stand on private property preceded the gunfire. Killed were Robert Crotteau, 42; his son Joey, 20; Al Laski, 43; Mark Roidt, 28; and Jessica Willers, 27.
Denny Drew, 55, died Monday at St. Joseph's Hospital in Marshfield, his family announced. Two others remained hospitalized with gunshot wounds.
Officials said the victims were part of a group of 14 or 15 who made their opening-weekend trip to Robert Crotteau's 400-acre property an annual tradition.
''This was his first time out with that group. He was delighted to be invited,'' said Karen Roidt, whose son was killed.
Some Hmong leaders questioned whether racial differences may have figured in the shootings; authorities have not determined a motive.
Sang Vang said his family was devastated, and that his brother has lived in the United States for more than 20 years and is a U.S. Army veteran.
Vang's mother, who does not speak English, declined comment through an interpreter Monday night.
"The suspect got down from the deer stand, walked 40 yards, fiddled with his rifle. He took the scope off his rifle, he turned and he opened fire on the group."
-James Meier
''This is an incredible tragedy, one in which a great family tradition like a deer hunt has turned into such a great loss,'' Gov. Jim Doyle said. There have been previous clashes between Southeast Asian and white hunters in the region.
In Minnesota, a fistfight once broke out after Hmong hunters crossed onto private land, said Ilean Her, director of the St. Paul-based Council on Asian Pacific Minnesotans.
Vang's arrest left some Hmong citizens in his hometown fearful of a backlash. About 24,000 Hmong live in St. Paul, the highest concentration of any U.S. city. And the shooting has already provoked racial tension in an area of Wisconsin where deer hunting is steeped in tradition.
Locals in the Birchwood area, about 120 miles northeast of the Twin Cities, have complained that the Hmong, refugees from Laos, do not understand the concept of private property and hunt wherever they see fit.
Activist Michael Yang said various Hmong groups on Monday held an emergency meeting to discuss how to respond.
But, Minnesota state Sen. Mee Moua rejected the idea that cultural differences played any role in the shooting.
''We're all just speculating that may have been a trigger for him,'' said Moua, who is Hmong. ''We're all searching for answers.''
Moua added that Hmong-Americans feel racism on a daily basis, but ''that doesn't mean you kill people.''
Authorities said Vang has no criminal record with the Minnesota Bureau of Criminal Apprehension. Police in St. Paul said there had been two domestic violence calls to his home in the past year, but both were resolved without incident.
11-23-04 05:03 EST
Updated: 09:09 AM EST
Suspect's Relatives Shocked by Hunting Rampage
Wounded Hunter Dies in Hospital, Raising Toll to Six
By JOSHUA FREED and ROBERT IMRIE, AP
BIRCHWOOD, Wis. (Nov. 23) -- Relatives of a man being held in the deadly shooting of six deer hunters say they are just as stunned and bewildered by the incident as authorities investigating the case.
Thick glass prevented Chai Vang from any contact with family members during a brief visit Monday at Sawyer County Jail. They spoke via telephone, mixing English with the native language of Hmong immigrants from Laos.
''I still don't believe it,'' the suspect's brother, Sang Vang, said. ''He is one of the nicest persons. ... Maybe something provoked him or something. He is a reasonable person.''
Charges had not been filed against 36-year-old Chai Vang, of St. Paul, Minn., as of Monday night.
Vang is accused of opening fire on several hunters Sunday with a semiautomatic assault rifle, leaving six people dead and two wounded, authorities said.
''I just don't think any of this makes sense,'' Sawyer County Sheriff Jim Meier said.
Meier told reporters a dispute over Vang's use of a tree stand on private property preceded the gunfire. Killed were Robert Crotteau, 42; his son Joey, 20; Al Laski, 43; Mark Roidt, 28; and Jessica Willers, 27.
Denny Drew, 55, died Monday at St. Joseph's Hospital in Marshfield, his family announced. Two others remained hospitalized with gunshot wounds.
Officials said the victims were part of a group of 14 or 15 who made their opening-weekend trip to Robert Crotteau's 400-acre property an annual tradition.
''This was his first time out with that group. He was delighted to be invited,'' said Karen Roidt, whose son was killed.
Some Hmong leaders questioned whether racial differences may have figured in the shootings; authorities have not determined a motive.
Sang Vang said his family was devastated, and that his brother has lived in the United States for more than 20 years and is a U.S. Army veteran.
Vang's mother, who does not speak English, declined comment through an interpreter Monday night.
"The suspect got down from the deer stand, walked 40 yards, fiddled with his rifle. He took the scope off his rifle, he turned and he opened fire on the group."
-James Meier
''This is an incredible tragedy, one in which a great family tradition like a deer hunt has turned into such a great loss,'' Gov. Jim Doyle said. There have been previous clashes between Southeast Asian and white hunters in the region.
In Minnesota, a fistfight once broke out after Hmong hunters crossed onto private land, said Ilean Her, director of the St. Paul-based Council on Asian Pacific Minnesotans.
Vang's arrest left some Hmong citizens in his hometown fearful of a backlash. About 24,000 Hmong live in St. Paul, the highest concentration of any U.S. city. And the shooting has already provoked racial tension in an area of Wisconsin where deer hunting is steeped in tradition.
Locals in the Birchwood area, about 120 miles northeast of the Twin Cities, have complained that the Hmong, refugees from Laos, do not understand the concept of private property and hunt wherever they see fit.
Activist Michael Yang said various Hmong groups on Monday held an emergency meeting to discuss how to respond.
But, Minnesota state Sen. Mee Moua rejected the idea that cultural differences played any role in the shooting.
''We're all just speculating that may have been a trigger for him,'' said Moua, who is Hmong. ''We're all searching for answers.''
Moua added that Hmong-Americans feel racism on a daily basis, but ''that doesn't mean you kill people.''
Authorities said Vang has no criminal record with the Minnesota Bureau of Criminal Apprehension. Police in St. Paul said there had been two domestic violence calls to his home in the past year, but both were resolved without incident.
11-23-04 05:03 EST
Chiksic
Resident Stoner
- Location
- a cloud of smoke
I was thinkin' the same thing...