Toyota Project: TacoCart

Herzog

somewhat damaged
Admin
Location
Wydaho
Why are we so eager to skip over option 3?
I've honestly considered it. The work I put into this thing has been way more than I've put into any other jeep (besides the buggy) and it still rides like crap :grimacing::rofl:

To be clear though - the SAS rides awesome. The steering box from the old IFS trucks SUCK though, so the steering is still lame. I've done everything to the steering box, even put a brand new one in. Same issue, and it's not the linkage.

The rear suspension is rough and horrible on the road but butter smooth offroad but has tons of axle wrap. I can't figure it. Might do the chevy springs swap and fine a way to fit a ladder bar in there.
 

James K

NO, I'm always like this
Location
Taylorsville, Ut
Well, the rear tires are cupped enough that it's driving me nuts to drive it down the road. The vibration is bad.

I have two options -
  • Buy 1 35" tire and rotate the spare in. Toss the worst tire and keep the other as the spare
or
  • Buy a set of 37" tires, which was the long term goal when these wore out anyways

Decisions...

I also need to tune the rear shocks. They are way off and just help to make the ride not so great.
37's
 

OrangeSkidPlate

Active Member
Location
Pocatello
I pulled the overloads on my tacoma when I went to the chevy leafs. Not sure if the truck would have been heavy enough to get that pogo effect that my 3/4 ton has when its not loaded but didn't want to find out. I enjoyed the chevy leafs for the one time I wheeled it before I parted it out....
 

YROC FAB.

BUGGY TIME
Vendor
Location
Richfield, UT.
I have the overloads on my 4 runner with the 63's and it rides way nice in the rear. I'd think it's similar weight with your 4door tayco. I wanted that extra 1/2" of lift they provide and figured I could just reach in there with a cutoff wheel if they were a problem. Pretty sure my 63's are a 3 pack with overloads like yours.
 
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Herzog

somewhat damaged
Admin
Location
Wydaho
I have the overloads on my 4 runner with the 63's and it rides way nice in the rear. I'd think it's similar weight with your 4door tayco. I wanted that extra 1/2" of lift they provide and figured I could just reach in there with a cutoff wheel if they were a problem. Pretty sure my 63's are a 3 pack with overloads like yours.
That's the reason I'd leave them in too. That extra little bit means an inch less of shackle, right? I think I'll go that route, worst case cut them off or just remove them later. No big deal.
 

Herzog

somewhat damaged
Admin
Location
Wydaho
Too many spring projects... kind of jumping back to this when I can

Using Ruffstufff frame mounts. I could have made them, but I'm still slowly learning to design metal parts in cad and how to cut them and accurately bend them in the press brake... when I saw these on sale I figured it was a no brainer.

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But... flat parts are just super easy. Cut these shackles out in a few minutes which would have taken me over an hour to measure, cutout, cleanup and drill. I feel a little spoiled.IMG_5796.jpeg
 
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Herzog

somewhat damaged
Admin
Location
Wydaho
Welding Glamour Shot. Perma gluing the new spring mounts now that I'm satisfied with all the measurements.
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Bolted up and full droop
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Ready to go!
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So, the ride is definitely better so far... but I am going to also re-valve the shocks. I think that will be the biggest change. Hopefully soon I will get them tore apart so I can see what shims are in there and order new ones.

Anybody have a good guesstimate for which shim pack I should run on the rear of this? (Fox 2.0's)

Thanks for looking.
 

Greg

I run a tight ship... wreck
Admin
I'd be curious to hear what you think of the Chevy springs, once you've put some miles on them. I ran them a long time ago on a Toyota and liked them.
 

Herzog

somewhat damaged
Admin
Location
Wydaho
So I tried to do some research but shock valving appears to be more of an art than a science and I can’t find anyone with info to match my setup or come close. Almost nobody posts their numbers.

I found out that my front coilovers (FOX 2.0) are valved 50/70. This feels like too much to me, considering the weight of the taco isn’t very significant, so on a hunch I’m gonna try 35/55. I already have the shims. Will this be too soft?

The rears are 30/70. They also feel a bit stiff especially unloaded bed. I’m tempted to try 20/40.

Anything wrong with these numbers? Is there a formula for higher rebound in some scenarios? The 30/70 ratio seems odd but this is my first dive into shock valving.
 
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Herzog

somewhat damaged
Admin
Location
Wydaho
My friend Miles is a Toyota guy and a shock rebuild wizard.. But not sure he is an RME'er. @Kevin B. Is Miles on here?

Regardless, RLT Suspension is his shop in west jordan(?)
I think I'm too far away from most of these places now days. I'm just going with the "change it and see what happens" approach for now. Benefit is that I'm actually learning something too, I hope. :D
 

Kevin B.

Not often wrong. Never quite right.
Moderator
Location
Stinkwater
My friend Miles is a Toyota guy and a shock rebuild wizard.. But not sure he is an RME'er. @Kevin B. Is Miles on here?

Regardless, RLT Suspension is his shop in west jordan(?)
If he is I don't remember his username.

But I second the suggestion for anyone looking for suspension.
 
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