• RME Gear & Apparel

Mental health: it’s ok to talk.

glockman

glockman

I hate Jeep trucks
Location
Pleasant Grove
Houndoc said:
Just because they are not seen does not make wounds imaginary and insinuating that they are undermines the point of this thread that it is okay to admit to struggles and show what some would call weakness.
Click to expand...
To be clear, I'm only speaking for me personally. That's why I used first person language.
It's ok to show weakness, it's not ok to give up. That is also the point of this thread. You have to fight YOUR battles. Mine are different than yours but claiming that they are too big to overcome is not the answer. I have a nephew and sister to take care of now because my brother gave up. That's not ok and I'll help anyone here not offload their burden onto their loved ones.


Tonkaman said:
You’re a better man than I am. I just can’t do this. So often I'm filled with so much hate it consumes me. Honestly I miss the old days when I would just go get in a brawl with the first sucker that looked at me wrong. I hate ending my day with all this pent up rage and nobody to hit.
Click to expand...
This is why I think we get along so well Derek.

If I don't decide what is going to kick my ass, the world will. I've been down that path and I don't like it. I don't think that is manly. I've destroyed things and relationships because I didn't know how to be a productive adult.
I can't sit for a day or the self loathing sets in and puts me in a rut. It's often hard to find my path for the day but it's better to fight that fight than the thought that I've wasted the most precious commodity I have, time. That's my internal battle.

Being around better people than me helps me aim up. I spent my youth surrounding myself with losers who were easy to be better than. Being a half assed person was not the right path for me. I have to push or be pushed or I lose. I consider that both a strength and a weakness.

I sincerely think most of us, need more of the things that shut us down, not less. You never overcome things you avoid. Finding the right dose is the trick. Kevin sounds like he is working on that. I commend him for that, his tempo is different than mine and that's ok. It doesn't make him less manly or whatever.
 
Hickey

Hickey

Burn-barrel enthusiast
Supporting Member
Location
Grantsville, Utah
Kevin B. said:
Not gonna lie, it happens. And it's certainly not the goal, but some days brushing my teeth and making it to the couch to play Gran Turismo is a victory. They're not common, and I certainly don't let it happen, but it happens.
Click to expand...
I’m right there with you. It’s a way for me to “check out” or distract myself from my own brain when I’m stressed about unimportant life crap. I can go a year without playing, then pick it up for a day or so and go 12 hours straight. I definitely wouldn’t call myself a gamer. I loathe online play.
 
Hickey

Hickey

Burn-barrel enthusiast
Supporting Member
Location
Grantsville, Utah
One of the drivers I’ve worked with for 18 years took his life yesterday. I’m pretty upset about it. I know a shit-ton of horrible drivers, and he wasn’t one of them. I’m pretty sad about this, as it relates to my new-new position at work. Part of my new position is challenged with improving the mental health of our fleet drivers. I just got started last week.
 
DAA

DAA

Well-Known Member
Supporting Member
Location
West Bountiful, UT
Tonkaman said:
You’re a better man than I am. I just can’t do this. So often I'm filled with so much hate it consumes me. Honestly I miss the old days when I would just go get in a brawl with the first sucker that looked at me wrong. I hate ending my day with all this pent up rage and nobody to hit.
Click to expand...

I mostly avoid this thread, to be honest. Too much old bad stuff wants to come back when I do.

I'll be 60 real soon. I spent most of my life feeling the same way. Life is so much better when I was finally able to start letting it all just go. DGAF is the way to be. I didn't even really start getting off it until my Dad passed and that was only 16 years ago. But once I started, it felt good, and I embraced it and only wish I'd have gotten into the DGAF mindset a long, long time ago.

End of the day, those other people are never, ever, ever going to GAF about you. Not GAF about them is such an uplift.

- DAA
 
Kevin B.

Kevin B.

Not often wrong. Never quite right.
Moderator
Location
Stinkwater
J-mobzz said:
I’ve been going to a boxing gym for about a year and a half now. I won’t spare because I’m 42 and don’t need any additional head trauma but, the people there are just amazing and supportive and getting some good work in on a heavy bag does wonders.
Click to expand...
Talk to me about this. I used to dabble in martial art-ish things and have been thinking about getting back into something like that. I miss the physical outlet and the competition. What is your gym like? Do you attend formal classes, or just have a trainer who gives you stuff to work on and you go do it on your own time, or... ?
 
jeeper

jeeper

I live my life 1 dumpster at a time
Location
So Jo, Ut
Hickey said:
One of the drivers I’ve worked with for 18 years took his life yesterday. I’m pretty upset about it. I know a shit-ton of horrible drivers, and he wasn’t one of them. I’m pretty sad about this, as it relates to my new-new position at work. Part of my new position is challenged with improving the mental health of our fleet drivers. I just got started last week.
Click to expand...

I’m sorry to hear about this. Wish I had the right words to say.
 
J

J-mobzz

Well-Known Member
Kevin B. said:
Talk to me about this. I used to dabble in martial art-ish things and have been thinking about getting back into something like that. I miss the physical outlet and the competition. What is your gym like? Do you attend formal classes, or just have a trainer who gives you stuff to work on and you go do it on your own time, or... ?
Click to expand...
The place I go is called anatomy boxing. It’s a monthly fee to the gym and it gives you access to all the weights, equipment, and stuff and includes access to all of the group classes. The classes range from strength and conditioning that focus exactly on that, to bag work classes that are basically two minute rounds on the heavy bag following the coaches lead with 30 seconds between rounds and two minutes every 4 rounds. The coaches help you with technique and form. They also have hybrid classes that are 4 rounds of bag work followed by 4 rounds of various other training that ranges from kettle bells, sled work, etc to foot work drills.

This is all I do is attend the group classes. They are usually 4-8 people and you get plenty of coaching during them to fit my needs and skill level.

Now this is a full boxing gym also and they do have sparring and plenty of boxers that actually fight competitively. I personally have no interest in that or getting in the ring for sparring so I’ve never taken any of the prep classes or other requirements needed to partake in that kind of stuff. But I think the minimum requirements are at least three months of training and then some other classes to understand sparring rules, etc..

They do also have private training available if you want one on one training. But again that’s not really something I’ve been interested in.

The overall vibe at the gym is honestly the best I’ve ever been in. There’s people on absolutely every skill level. The coaches are all incredibly helpful and I’ve never pushed me into getting in the ring. A lot of the higher level boxers, actually coach different classes in trade for memberships to be able to train there.

I imagine this is similar to how other boxing gyms even like legends works, but honestly, I’ve never been in another boxing gym so I have no idea.
 
Hickey

Hickey

Burn-barrel enthusiast
Supporting Member
Location
Grantsville, Utah
jeeper said:
I’m sorry to hear about this. Wish I had the right words to say.
Click to expand...
I know. There just aren’t any. I could really use a big fire at my property with some beer, but I have too much to do. BTW I built some rather large burn piles last weekend made with a large number of big tree stumps. 8’ tall, maybe 15 tree stumps in each. Maybe we’ll have to have an RME mental health day once we get a heavy snow this winter.
 
mbryson

mbryson

.......a few dollars more
Supporting Member
Location
Bountiful, land of rocks
J-mobzz said:
The place I go is called anatomy boxing. It’s a monthly fee to the gym and it gives you access to all the weights, equipment, and stuff and includes access to all of the group classes. The classes range from strength and conditioning that focus exactly on that, to bag work classes that are basically two minute rounds on the heavy bag following the coaches lead with 30 seconds between rounds and two minutes every 4 rounds. The coaches help you with technique and form. They also have hybrid classes that are 4 rounds of bag work followed by 4 rounds of various other training that ranges from kettle bells, sled work, etc to foot work drills.

This is all I do is attend the group classes. They are usually 4-8 people and you get plenty of coaching during them to fit my needs and skill level.

Now this is a full boxing gym also and they do have sparring and plenty of boxers that actually fight competitively. I personally have no interest in that or getting in the ring for sparring so I’ve never taken any of the prep classes or other requirements needed to partake in that kind of stuff. But I think the minimum requirements are at least three months of training and then some other classes to understand sparring rules, etc..

They do also have private training available if you want one on one training. But again that’s not really something I’ve been interested in.

The overall vibe at the gym is honestly the best I’ve ever been in. There’s people on absolutely every skill level. The coaches are all incredibly helpful and I’ve never pushed me into getting in the ring. A lot of the higher level boxers, actually coach different classes in trade for memberships to be able to train there.

I imagine this is similar to how other boxing gyms even like legends works, but honestly, I’ve never been in another boxing gym so I have no idea.
Click to expand...


Is this the one over one 5th South? That's tempted me a bit
 
moab_cj5

moab_cj5

Well-Known Member
Supporting Member
Location
The Village of Kay
Hickey said:
One of the drivers I’ve worked with for 18 years took his life yesterday. I’m pretty upset about it. I know a shit-ton of horrible drivers, and he wasn’t one of them. I’m pretty sad about this, as it relates to my new-new position at work. Part of my new position is challenged with improving the mental health of our fleet drivers. I just got started last week.
Click to expand...
I am so sorry man. We mourn with you. It is always tough to lose someone, especially in this way, and when we didn't know they needed help. My condolences.
 
glockman

glockman

I hate Jeep trucks
Location
Pleasant Grove
Hickey said:
One of the drivers I’ve worked with for 18 years took his life yesterday. I’m pretty upset about it. I know a shit-ton of horrible drivers, and he wasn’t one of them. I’m pretty sad about this, as it relates to my new-new position at work. Part of my new position is challenged with improving the mental health of our fleet drivers. I just got started last week.
Click to expand...
Sorry to hear this Jeremy. I'm still moving between being angry at my brother and sad he isn't here.

I recently started reading " Bad Therapy" by Abigail Shrier. It would be a good read given your new job role. It details all the issues associated with rumination and how therapy can cause issues for many people. It also details who really needs therapy and some traps around "talking" with people who aren't trained and don't have the ethical requirements of a licensed therapist, such as job and school councilors.

I have found it helpful for the reason DAA mentions. You have to get past things and constantly talking about them doesn't do that for most people. The mental health industry had started to mint it's own patients. It seems like today we are bombarded with the message that we have all experienced trauma and we have to work through it to move forward. We need a diagnosis to explain all our personality quirks. At a time where there is more mental health treatment than ever before, there are less mentally healthy people. Correlation?

I think a good trip with your friends, sitting around a fire talking about things you enjoy is generally more helpful than an expensive hour with a stranger talking about all the bad things you have ever experienced. Yes there is some cathartic value in getting things off your chest, but you have to move to the next step and it's not financially beneficial for a therapist to help you with that.
 
Hickey

Hickey

Burn-barrel enthusiast
Supporting Member
Location
Grantsville, Utah
glockman said:
I think a good trip with your friends, sitting around a fire talking about things you enjoy is generally more helpful than an expensive hour with a stranger talking about all the bad things you have ever experienced. Yes there is some cathartic value in getting things off your chest, but you have to move to the next step and it's not financially beneficial for a therapist to help you with that.
Click to expand...
I absolutely believe this, which is why I decided that today my group is gonna take a Sunday drive down to Delta and get a burger. That’s our job today, and I’m forcing them to all stop at a few points and listen to me talk about the Pony Express Trail, the Little Sahara dunes, and the Internment Camp in Delta. 5 drivers, 5 Facilitators, and 5 company trucks. All on the company’s dime, because culture matters and it’s a facet of mental well-being.
 
Hickey

Hickey

Burn-barrel enthusiast
Supporting Member
Location
Grantsville, Utah
Hickey said:
I absolutely believe this, which is why I decided that today my group is gonna take a Sunday drive down to Delta and get a burger. That’s our job today, and I’m forcing them to all stop at a few points and listen to me talk about the Pony Express Trail, the Little Sahara dunes, and the Internment Camp in Delta. 5 drivers, 5 Facilitators, and 5 company trucks. All on the company’s dime, because culture matters and it’s a facet of mental well-being.
Click to expand...
IMG_8365.jpeg
 
jeeper

jeeper

I live my life 1 dumpster at a time
Location
So Jo, Ut
Hickey said:
View attachment 176458
Click to expand...
Hickey said:
I absolutely believe this, which is why I decided that today my group is gonna take a Sunday drive down to Delta and get a burger. That’s our job today, and I’m forcing them to all stop at a few points and listen to me talk about the Pony Express Trail, the Little Sahara dunes, and the Internment Camp in Delta. 5 drivers, 5 Facilitators, and 5 company trucks. All on the company’s dime, because culture matters and it’s a facet of mental well-being.
Click to expand...

The best ever. Good job!
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Top