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Just replied to the same topic in the Land Use forum. This sounds like a great project for a club to get involved with for National Public Lands Day on 9/30. If any club (or group of individuals) wants to get involved with this, contact me and I'll put you in touch with the appropriate FS...

Just replied to the same topic in the U4WDA Corner forum. This sounds like a great project for a club to get involved with for National Public Lands Day on 9/30. If any club (or group of individuals) wants to get involved with this, contact me and I'll put you in touch with the appropriate FS...

Brad is the president of the club.

Classy as usual. One guy off-trail doesn't make an entire group into asshats. If he is off-trail then that's lame. If not, I'd like to hear their explanation and know exactly where they are in the picture.

The SUWA rally is on the same day in SLC. That's also why I thought maybe the issues were related.

Maybe this will help: http://www.coloradok5.com/axleguide.shtml

Is it the snow, or careless riders/drivers? Unfortunately there's always plenty to do in AF Canyon thanks to all the irresponsible users in the area. My suggestion (and that's all it is) would be to do the P.Y.M.W.Y.M.I (I hope that's right) in July where we'd fix the FL fences, and do a...

Between Heber and Orem? Tried up near Wallsburg? Maybe take the Deer Creek trail from the reservoir up over the hill and into the forest.

Unfortunately, I think it's because a certain group has been up there 6 out of the last 10 days picking up trash. Sometimes I wonder if people think it's ok to leave trash up there because it always seems to disappear.

100 responsible users can cruise right by without ever causing a problem. It only takes 1 idiot to knock down the fence.

Yeah, you're probably right. I just jumped to my conclusion 'cause I had recently received an email from SUWA about something in Washington County. After looking at it again, it might be unrelated. Dear Steve, As a friend of the Southern Utah Wilderness Alliance, we wanted to invite you...

Perhaps it's to counter the considerable effort that SUWA has been focusing on the area and especially Washington County.

For what it's worth, no full size 4x4's tried to come through while we were camped there all weekend. Only ATV's. Not to say that full size rigs don't go through there, but we didn't see any this weekend.

OK, I thought that was the loop you were talking about, but didn't realize it until after I posted.

Good points, and a good question. If you move down there, you need to get a club started.

There are no official clubs in St George that I'm aware of, but there are some active 4-wheelers down there.

Do you mean the little loop that circles around at the edge of the lake so people can turn around or are you referring to something else? 25 out of 28 groups observed didn't waste time finding that the trail was under water. They just buzzed across the grass instead. Yeah, it's more of a...

Uhhh, not exactly. Don't worry. There was no illegal, off-trail, driving through the lake going on.

Yeah, if there's a hydraulic system without a bleeder then it should be designed to self bleed.

You guys who think it's Provo should look at it again.