A Plea For HELP! To Anyone Within A Reasonable Distance Of American Fork Canyon

[sixstringsteve]

I think the fiberglass tops are more robust than the roll bars.

 

[Jinx]

The ground is very hard on the uphill side and very soft on the downhill side. I think Rebar/spikes uphill, and forward of the truck would be the ticket.

I was thinking as an anchor point(s) a couple well placed T posts could limit the liability of a vehicle anchor and be easily removed with a hi lift.

Side note: would anchoring the front and a rear burn to get the rig perpendicular to the road vs parallel help? It could limit the potential side roll.

 

[Bart]

Had a friend look at this thread and said what I was afraid to say. He's worried that with the holiday weekend that it will most likely get stripped or pushed over by Friday. I think someone ought to put together a list of who can go and when they can go.

I'm willing to take off this afternoon but will need to be back down by 5:00.
I'm willing to cancel my plans in the morning (4th) and go up there, but would need to be back by about 2:00.
I'm willing to be up there Friday until about 3:00.

Let me know what works best.

 

[sixstringsteve]

I think a rear burn would be too risky. It'd be really sketchy for someone to be in the vehicle during any part of this recovery. Plus those little 22REs are't the best at burn-outs.

 

[Bart]

I was thinking as an anchor point(s) a couple well placed T posts could limit the liability of a vehicle anchor and be easily removed with a hi lift.

Side note: would anchoring the front and a rear burn to get the rig perpendicular to the road vs parallel help? It could limit the potential side roll.

There's been a couple of suggestions like this and after being on a recovery a couple years ago in the same area, I would suggest not burning the rear down. Once this goes there will be no stopping it, just like the 4 wheeler we gathered up at the bottom of this hill. I don't think we could anchor the front enough to keep it from going and I certainly wouldn't want my little buggy attached to the front of it if this was going to be attempted.

 

[snwbrdr852]

Yeah, Steve is definitely right about having a leader. It made a big difference just with the 4 of us last night.

4biker, way too sketchy to get in there and try to get the top off. Good idea though.

I'd like to plan on going up Friday morning, that is unless someone goes up sooner and comes back with bad news...
But I'll take as much help as possible. The more, the merrier, as long as there's a designated person calling the shots. And whoever is available, just bring all the gear you can, haha.
If you haven't been up there before/in a while, just be advised there are a few spots with some good sized rocks. Beautiful, fun trail though.

And I just can't say it enough, but I really appreciate all the help - in any form.

 

[Kevin B.]

How robust are the rollbars on 1st gen's?.

They're not, they bolt to a reinforced section of sheet metal in the truck bed. I like the idea of pulling the shell off though if it comes to that, that's 80 pounds of fiberglass.

Steve, anything you're willing to loan I'd be happy to pick up Friday morning on my way up.

 

[TJDukit]

I am free ish tomorrow as well, we have a party in the evening but my wife would surely understand if I had to miss it.

 

[TurboMinivan]

Had a friend look at this thread and said what I was afraid to say. He's worried that with the holiday weekend that it will most likely get stripped or pushed over by Friday.

I hate to be a nay-sayer, but I think this is an extremely valid concern.

I'm willing to cancel my plans in the morning (4th) and go up there, but would need to be back by about 2:00.

I could also go up tomorrow morning. Be advised: I am not nearly as experienced as others here (cough Bart cough), so I would be a grunt rather than the leader.

 

[TRD270]

Last night was the only night I could help, to bad i was a little late to the party. I have to work the rest of the week. I will offer up my gear if its needed though. I have several straps, two snatch blocks, pile of shackles.

 

[Bart]

Okay, Friday it is. What time do you all want to meet in the parking lot. I'm all for an extra early start.

 

[Kevin B.]

I could come be a grunt tomorrow, depending on my wife's veto when I ask her. I'll be coming off an all night shift, so I won't be much of a grunt though, and I wouldn't be able to be at Tibble before probably 0930.

I'm completely flexible on Friday though. I like an early start too, Bart...

 

[TJDukit]

I think if enough of us problem sovlers can get up and assess the situation I have conifdence we can get the rig out safely, obviously it's hard to make a good assessment from pictures but with some head scratching on the mountain we can figure it out.

I think if we can get enough people and the right equipment then tonight or tomorrow will be the safest bet as far as vandalism goes.

 

[MicahMan]

Lets set this up then. The OP needs to choose a trail boss and then have people work for him. I'm afraid of the vandalism side as well. The high school version of me would have tipped this over for sport. It takes 2 hours from the mouth of the canyon up to this spot and probably 4 hours to get it recovered and out. I can only help today and am willing to stabilize but I want a team with me at least one other vehicle. I need to leave asap if I'm going to help. If not we need to wait till Friday and make it happen. I will be out of town but have a lot of recovery gear that I can lend. Please call me my vehicle and gear are in South Jordan and the keys are there with it. 801-824-5099

 

[Coco]

I am thinking if we can get a vehicle in front of it, and pull the vehicle forward, while someone is anchored to the up-hill side using a snatch block or something to help keep pressure on the uphill side, and you could drive it out?

 

[snwbrdr852]

The earliest I could be there on Friday is around 7:30 as I'll be coming off a graveyard shift.

 

[Kevin B.]

The earliest I could be there on Friday is around 7:30 as I'll be coming off a graveyard shift.

If you want to try and go up today or tomorrow, call it out and either start organizing or tap somebody to start organizing for you. The other guys are right, it's time for somebody to be in charge.

I can't go up today. If you want to go up tomorrow, I'll do my best to be there. I can definitely come up Friday.

 

[TJDukit]

Not sure if I've ever seen this many people reading one thread at the same time...I love this forum.

 

[sixstringsteve]

1500 views in less than 24 hours.

 

[snwbrdr852]

I hear you guys on the vandalism, and I'm concerned too. But to be honest, I'm just as worried about attempting it without sufficient manpower/skill/gear/time.
And it sounds like the consensus is that Bart is the man for the job, so based on his and others' availability, Friday seems best to me.