An Inconvenient Truth

Bart

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I agree with most of what's been said, but to play devil's advocate here, I think there are some truths to this and the main one being that man can do something to help the situation.

With that said, I'd say the first thing for Big Al to do would be to demolish his house in Kentucky that uses more electricity in a week than the average household does in a year. Hopefully the Hollywood crowd that is making Gore a hero would follow suit. This alone would drop greenhouse gasses exponentially.

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StrobeNGH

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Yes, if you ever get a chance to read that book, do it, it will scare you to death in hind sight, and you will be very glad that Al is out of the heavy political scene at this time.

A very scary man

When I was a sophomore in HS, the Policy Debate topic was about pollution, and we read a few of Algore's books/treatises/scriptures for arguments . . .
I was utterly amazed that such a nut-job was selected as Vice President.

Ever studied his Father's life, and the family relationship with Armand Hammer? It adds another layer to the "scary" factor.

AlGore got his start from Occidental Petroleum, which is the ultimate irony to his zealotry (that and the "carbon footprint" one of his many mansions makes) . . . He claims that he sold all of his holdings in Occidental Petroleum when his father died, thus ridding his ties to Occidental/Big Oil . . . but his "zealotry" began during the 80's, when AlGore was actively involved in Occidental.

Two faced doesn't even begin to describe him. But, he's a politician, and as we all know, politicians say whatever is politically expedient.
AlGore found a niche where he would be embraced with open arms, and has worked to expand that niche to further his career. For that, I give him huge props. He's an evil genius.
 

StrobeNGH

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I agree with most of what's been said, but to play devil's advocate here, I think there are some truths to this and the main one being that man can do something to help the situation.

With that said, I'd say the first thing for Big Al to do would be to demolish his house in Kentucky that uses more electricity in a week than the average household does in a year. Hopefully the Hollywood crowd that is making Gore a hero would follow suit. This alone would drop greenhouse gasses exponentially.

Totally seriall,
ManBearPig

True.
I think that we should do everything we can to not pollute rivers/oceans, and the air.
Until the 80's Pittsburgh was the smoggiest city in America. On a bright sunny day, people would be driving around the city with their lights on because of all the smog put out by the steel factories.
All of the buildings were literally stained black from the smog/soot. Today, you can see "clean marks" on some of the buildings where the rain has washed the crap off the rocks.
They pressure washed one of the old churches downtown. It was black when they started, and a light grey when they finished.

Cleaning crap like that up, I'm all for.

Doing our best to preserve habitat for animals (birds, Elk, Deer, Fish, Buffalo, etc . . .), I'm all for (and I think we should begin by STOPPING the new development up by Park City, but that's a whole other thread).

Prohibiting companies from dumping toxic sludge into rivers and oceans, I'm all for.

Fining people who litter, I'm all for.

Trying our best to keep the earth pretty, I'm all for . . .

But freaking out about CO2 emissions (something that occurs more in nature, than through man-made sources) . . . that's just crazy.

All the worthwhile projects people can be working on, but they spend their time and efforts trying to stop something that occurs naturally.
Wow.

As for stopping "global warming:" The world's beef-herds produce more methane and CO2 than man does.
EVEN if we stop producing all greenhouse gases (without killing all life on earth of course), it would be a drop in a bucket compared with the greenhouse gases which are produced naturally.
Yellowstone produces more greenhouse gases in one day than our cars do.

Greenhouse gases are produced from burning organic materials, such as coal, oil, etc.
So what is the difference whether a volcano incinerates the carbon based materials, or my car?
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timpanogos

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We would be naïve (or just in total denial), if we did not believe we are wrecking havoc with nature during this infinitesimally small geological time frame.

Next time you go to turn right to Moab, look left – Book Cliffs, or go take a gander off of Dead Horse point, or the Grand Canyon. Guess what. In the real scheme of things … we are not going to be here very long, but will be leaving an interesting layer.
 

dunatic67

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There have been some great comments on this subject in this thread, and I am in complete agreement.
Another thing that bothers me is the hysteria that Al and his cronies are trying to perpetuate. The media acting as if all this is 100% true. The media and Government officials "lynching" any scientist who doesn't agree with Al's ideas.
Reminds me of the salem witch hunts.
Anyone ever read the band Rush's lyrics to their song "Witch Hunt."
 

78mitsu

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My favorite is this graph, it shows the trending of solar output. since 1400, Measured by the amount of BE10 in ice near greenland, but seems pretty reasonable the sun gives off a little more energy and all the planets warm up a couple degrees. What I can't figure out is the "consesus" when all the data points the other way, The sun is getting just a touch warmer, satellite images showing the ice-caps on Mars are melting at the same rate they are on earth, it's just retarded.
 

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StrobeNGH

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My favorite is this graph, it shows the trending of solar output. since 1400, Measured by the amount of BE10 in ice near greenland, but seems pretty reasonable the sun gives off a little more energy and all the planets warm up a couple degrees. What I can't figure out is the "consesus" when all the data points the other way, The sun is getting just a touch warmer, satellite images showing the ice-caps on Mars are melting at the same rate they are on earth, it's just retarded.

How DARE you disagree with the great Algore.
You shall be burned at the stake for your insolence.

Global Warming really is a modern-day witch hunt.
 

Medsker

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My favorite is this graph, it shows the trending of solar output. since 1400, Measured by the amount of BE10 in ice near greenland, but seems pretty reasonable the sun gives off a little more energy and all the planets warm up a couple degrees. What I can't figure out is the "consesus" when all the data points the other way, The sun is getting just a touch warmer, satellite images showing the ice-caps on Mars are melting at the same rate they are on earth, it's just retarded.

Your failing to take into account that the Martians are driving their spaceships around creating Global Warming. I've seen them, Bugs Bunny kicked their butts!:D Whenever someone tries to talk to me about Global Warming I always tell them I'm waiting for more data...about 500,000 years worth ought to actually show a real trend.

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78mitsu

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Your failing to take into account that the Martians are driving their spaceships around creating Global Warming. I've seen them, Bugs Bunny kicked their butts!:D Whenever someone tries to talk to me about Global Warming I always tell them I'm waiting for more data...about 500,000 years worth ought to actually show a real trend.

Medsker

No, They all drive JEEPs with cloaks. and non-marking tires.
 

timpanogos

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Sorry people, thats all science fiction ... your stuck with your standard Eagle 5 units

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StrobeNGH

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My auto is so environmentally friendly, it runs on my ego, and it's tires not only leave no marks . . . they plant trees wherever I go.

Hover-cars, however, will cause global warming!
There is a consensus of scientists that believe that hover-cars will significantly impact the jet stream, which could cause a shift over the next ten, or thousand years, causing the jet stream to shift, making climates across the world stagnant.
The arctic and antarctic zones will increase their stranglehold over Asia, N. Europe, and N. America, and the equator will get so hot that people will drop dead.

This will result in mass migration to Mexico, which will collapse under the weight, leading to tsunamis and hurricanes across the mid-latitudes. Survivors will then be burned alive by the magma which will escape through the gaping hole that once was Mexico.

People, we must stop the hover-car scourge before it's too late!

Stay tuned for my documentary, "How Chitty-Chitty Bang Bang Destroyed the Earth." Advance tickets are going on sale now!!!
 

78mitsu

Registered User
My auto is so environmentally friendly, it runs on my ego, and it's tires not only leave no marks . . . they plant trees wherever I go.

Hover-cars, however, will cause global warming!
There is a consensus of scientists that believe that hover-cars will significantly impact the jet stream, which could cause a shift over the next ten, or thousand years, causing the jet stream to shift, making climates across the world stagnant.
The arctic and antarctic zones will increase their stranglehold over Asia, N. Europe, and N. America, and the equator will get so hot that people will drop dead.

This will result in mass migration to Mexico, which will collapse under the weight, leading to tsunamis and hurricanes across the mid-latitudes. Survivors will then be burned alive by the magma which will escape through the gaping hole that once was Mexico.

People, we must stop the hover-car scourge before it's too late!

Stay tuned for my documentary, "How Chitty-Chitty Bang Bang Destroyed the Earth." Advance tickets are going on sale now!!!


You forgot the part where electing al gore to world architect and webinventor will save us all even thought he drives 18 hovercars and has a hoverhouse :)
 

StrobeNGH

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You forgot the part where electing al gore to world architect and webinventor will save us all even thought he drives 18 hovercars and has a hoverhouse :)

Algore walks on water

Edit: and why would we need to "elect" Algore to something that he already is: webinventor
 
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