Ben and Kami’s TJ Overhaul

jevyguy

Active Member
Any New updates or am i going to have to come over to get them?

How is the Thanksgiving due date looking?
 

benjy

Rarely wrenches
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Location
Moab
Any New updates or am i going to have to come over to get them?

It was hard to make progress while I was in the western Caribbean :p

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But... I'm back now :( and will be posting an update later this week.
 

Greg

I run a tight ship... wreck
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Congrats Ben and Kami! Getting a project back on the road after it's been down for a long time is a huge step!

What do you need to do to finish it?
 

benjy

Rarely wrenches
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Location
Moab
Awesome Ben. Good Work. You going to be working on it tonight?

I will be, and need some help if you have a minute to stop by.

Congrats Ben and Kami! Getting a project back on the road after it's been down for a long time is a huge step!

What do you need to do to finish it?

It really was a huge step, and provided some good motivation to get the little stuff wrapped up.

To get it on the trail, I still need to wire the radiator fans and figure out an overflow bottle, charge the shocks and bumps, tie the B pillar together, install seatbelts, install hoodpins, have an exhaust built, and brakes... The brakes have been the biggest headache on this whole project. If I can't figure it out tonight, I'm probably just going to have the exhaust shop fix the brakes for me :-\ They're mushy... like there's still air in the system - although I'm 99% I've bled it all out. I even used the Phoenix reverse bleeder...

Then before I actually say its finished, there's a lot of other stuff like building a roof, skin the tube fenders, install the stereo, and a bunch of other small stuff, then tear it all back down for paint and to line the tub.

Or is that why she test drove it? lol

I wasn't going to be the only one to blame if it had a comeapart
 

benjy

Rarely wrenches
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Location
Moab
And just for fun, here's another one as she came around the block

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Shawn

Just Hanging Out
Location
Holly Day
Looks like nothing has changed as to who the driver really is... :rofl: Ben, you are takin a back seat, yet again.












ps, good for you!
 

BEACH

Casey Beach Racing
Supporting Member
Good work man! Lets go wheeling. Did you bench bleed your master before you put it on?? That could play a huge factor in it?
 

waynehartwig

www.jeeperman.com
Location
Mead, WA
fix the brakes for me :-\ They're mushy... like there's still air in the system - although I'm 99% I've bled it all out. I even used the Phoenix reverse bleeder...

Air isn't the only cause for mushy brakes. You could simply have some soft lines flexing (bulging). But it could be MC to caliper ratio...

What do you have for brakes? TJ master/booster with GM 1/2 ton calipers? If so, that's the way they will be. A larger bore master cylinder will fix it, though.

Basically the smaller bore creates more pressure and a larger bore creates more volume. Maybe the reason they feel mushy is because there is not enough volume.

Mine was like this, but I didn't have time to swap in the larger MC that I had already purchased. After driving my rig home from CA to WA, I actually liked the pedal feel more and kept it that way. Then about a month or so ago, my brake pedal was going to the floor - bad MC. So rather than buying a new MC, I just installed the one I already had. Night and day difference in the pedal, as well as braking power. I should have done it before!
 

benjy

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Location
Moab
Looks like nothing has changed as to who the driver really is... :rofl: Ben, you are takin a back seat, yet again.

So true :D

He's been spending time upgrading the passenger seat with nicer accommodations. :greg:

Now you got me thinking... a misting system for the summer, and a heating element in our PRPs for those winter runs might not be a bad idea :greg:

Good work man! Lets go wheeling. Did you bench bleed your master before you put it on?? That could play a huge factor in it?

Thanks man, I'll let you know when I'm ready for a run. St. George is sounding nice this time of year ;)

As far as bench bleeding... I thought reverse bleeding would elimnate the need to bench bleed, but I'll give it a shot tonight.

Air isn't the only cause for mushy brakes. You could simply have some soft lines flexing (bulging). But it could be MC to caliper ratio...

What do you have for brakes? TJ master/booster with GM 1/2 ton calipers? If so, that's the way they will be. A larger bore master cylinder will fix it, though.

Basically the smaller bore creates more pressure and a larger bore creates more volume. Maybe the reason they feel mushy is because there is not enough volume.

It's a GM MC, with stock ford 3/4 ton calipers in the front, and GM calipers in the rear, not sure what they were for. Mr. Schoon ordered those for me.

I guess "mushy" was the wrong word for it. It's consistent pressure all the way to the floor. When the pedal was on the floor it slowed it down, just not quickly. I also had to extend the pushrod, so I'm getting full stroke out of the MC.
 

big cherokee

a.r.c fabrication
Location
layton
sweet good to see it back on the road,


and soon in the rocks im sure. let me know when you guys head out for the first time would love to come crawling.
 

waynehartwig

www.jeeperman.com
Location
Mead, WA
It's a GM MC, with stock ford 3/4 ton calipers in the front, and GM calipers in the rear, not sure what they were for. Mr. Schoon ordered those for me.

I guess "mushy" was the wrong word for it. It's consistent pressure all the way to the floor. When the pedal was on the floor it slowed it down, just not quickly. I also had to extend the pushrod, so I'm getting full stroke out of the MC.

So did you change out the booster as well?

Figure out what the bore is. With that setup you probably need an 1-1/8". If it's 1", that's nothing more than a TJ.
 

mierdota

Well-Known Member
I will be, and need some help if you have a minute to stop by.



It really was a huge step, and provided some good motivation to get the little stuff wrapped up.

To get it on the trail, I still need to wire the radiator fans and figure out an overflow bottle, charge the shocks and bumps, tie the B pillar together, install seatbelts, install hoodpins, have an exhaust built, and brakes... The brakes have been the biggest headache on this whole project. If I can't figure it out tonight, I'm probably just going to have the exhaust shop fix the brakes for me :-\ They're mushy... like there's still air in the system - although I'm 99% I've bled it all out. I even used the Phoenix reverse bleeder...

Then before I actually say its finished, there's a lot of other stuff like building a roof, skin the tube fenders, install the stereo, and a bunch of other small stuff, then tear it all back down for paint and to line the tub.



I wasn't going to be the only one to blame if it had a comeapart

just an fyi when i charged my last coilovers they rose the jeep like and inch and a half or 2 inches so if you want it to settle 2 from where it is now it might be tricky not sure if all them do that though.
 
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