cage help

zukijames

zukijames

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im stuck and dont know what to do and jeff(drtsqrl) probably wants his notcher back sometime this year so any suggestions would be great

what should i do.. heres where im at now

i know the corners should be tube.. but i didnt have accest to a knotcher so i just cut trialges out of plate and welded in the windshield corners(might be hard to see)
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im not sure what to do here.. strait down..
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or coming back and meeting up here.
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not sure what to do here either
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any help will be appreciated much! thanks guy
 
Well, I'm not sure I would do any of what you said. If I had to choose, I'd say do the straight door bar and the rear cross bar. But it looks like you already have plenty of tube for that size/wight rig. You're just turning it into a bigger jungle jim. Are you going to add a rear seat? If not, I would say not to add anything else, but the rear cross bar.
After that I would focus on redoing the rear upper shock mount. Is it sleeved or just messed up on the ends? It looks like it could fail anyday.
Other than that, take out the fuel tank before any welding.
 
to lift the rig i cut it moved it down and sleeved it it to make it fit.. its not going anywhere. i just worry about landing on that front corner and it crunching or something thats why i wanted a down tube going toward my door area.. giving me a triangle there.. and if i bring it back to where the lower tubes in the door area meet it would make it stronger there..
 
i think you should do the strait bar on the door it looks pretty sweet and would give you more strength up there i think it would be pretty strong with it strait cuz it makes that triangle closer to a 90. i think if its angled it seems like it would be more in your line of sight but its hard to tell in the pics. i like the back cross bar with the triangle to the center tho. that would give you a lot more strength if you were to land on the rear corner it would be solid. you could run one strait down from that rear corner too that would help.
 
i would almost even move that one on the door further forward just so its more out of the way and you could add to the door part where it ties in if you needed to. haha i like your windshield wipers too. how do you like it without the windshield in there?
 
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Regardless of what you add or not, move your shoulder harnesses to the behind-the-seats bar where they should be.
 
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Regardless of what you add or not, move your shoulder harnesses to the behind-the-seats bar where they should be.
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It's funny how some things get noticed and some missed. I never even saw the belts, but now they stand way out. Yeah, then need to be moved.
 
im not sure if you guys are getting it.. the come under that bar then over my shoulder.. they were a foot too long and i had no way to shorten them.. so they bolt to the top.. come down behind that bar then up and over my shoulder .. so its exactly the same..
 
Your shoulder belt mount point should be below your shoulders (or the pivot point in this case). So when the belt is pulled tight, it sucks you back and down into your seat. With it mounted the way it is now, there is no way to get you as tight to the seat as mounting it the "right" way. You may feel like you are sitting in there tight, but once you're hanging upside down with your head hitting your cage bars, you'll know you could be in there tighter.
 
mine is 1.5 inches below my shoulders then comes up over my shoulder .. is this wrong? and thats with my seat leaned back a little if its more strait.. (so i can see better once harnessed in) it would be even lower .. my instructions in the box said like 4 degrees or something..
 
this is from circletrack.com are the rules differant for guys going faster?

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as far as i can tell im okay .. unless for some reason the pivot point wont work.. i could see over time maybe it would rub and make the harness weak right there..
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im not trying to be ignorant i just do not understand why this isn't okay. I don't wanta die because i was to dumb to realize what you guys are talking about.

Are you guys saying its not save cause the belt could slide like side to side where it pivots?
 
Why don't you take a picture of you all belted up and let us see how well it fits you. Looking at the pictures you've posted, I'd say it's to high, unless your shoulder is above or level with the cross bar, which would put your head way above your head rest and into the top of your cage.

In any regard, wear a helmet.
 
lol its hard to take a pic with me in it! and yeah i only have like 4.5 or 5 inches of head room.. but i do wear a helmet. but thats why im worried about that front corner crushing.. and thats why i wanted to bring a tube down from that corner to the door area
 
i would replace them and do it right, or at least make it so they can't move side to side either... when it comes right down to it spending a bill or two on something that saves your life is :cool:

when i first did my harnesses i had them running to the floor behind my seat (i didn't know better) and a guy told me that was wrong and i was going to compress my spine so i fixed it and never looked back
 
its not tied to the frame yet im working on it.. if i knew how.. id cut it all out and re do it the whole thing .. but i dont have the money or tools. im going to tie it in to the frame .. and do that other down tube.. kinda looks gay i just dont trust that front corner to handle a big flop and all the weight right there.. and the welds and way its put together( by previous owner) worry me. today i got some stuff done on the back hopefully tomorrow i'll get more done
 
I'm not trying sound negative here.. But, I would scrap it and start over. That cage scares me and could end up bad if you had a hard roll.
 
like i just posted .. i dont have tools or money to do that but thanks for the idea.. and whats so scary about it just wondering?

its had 3 little flops on it and not moved and 2 of those were before the roof had any triangulation..
 
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