Cascadia LJ Build

[Cascadia]

Ha. I know that. I'm just gonna wait til it blows so I have a reason for my wife of why I need new axles. The way he bolded and enlarged that tire comment though made it seem like he was talking about the MTR's. I'm in the process of looking for a front 60. I have obviously found plenty for the rear. Just waiting for the right price for the front.

 

[redbulltj]

I'm just gonna wait til it blows so I have a reason for my wife of why I need new axles.

If Murphy is with you, it will blow up at the wrong time .....out in the middle of no-where with 10 rigs behind you, without the space for others to go around....then who in the group is going to tow you home or to your trailer.

Stick to 35s till your ready to jump up in size and have the equipment to handle it.

Marcus and I can tell you of a bunch of times we had to get people out of the woods because they lacked the set-up for their tire size. The responsibility of your "blow up" now is in the hands of your fellow wheelers.

My two pennies.

 

[GEEPAHOLIC]

I'm in the process of looking for a front 60. I have obviously found plenty for the rear. Just waiting for the right price for the front. .... what are you looking to spend? my friend in vernal might have one if you want i can ask him let me know

 

[GOAT]

So how do you make a comment like that with out a story following it?

To get some discussion going, and it was getting late.....

That's what I was wondering. I've been looking forward to these tires with a lot of good reviews and then I have a comment like that with no explanation.

Why would be the major disappointment with the MTR kevlars? A lot of the driving will be around town cause this is my daily driver also. Thoughts??? Chocflip, I think the front would flex better in the front with the swaybars undone. Do you think that would make it more even or do you think there should be even more?

I have a set of 42 MTRs, and bought them because of how well they performed in johnson valley. still cold

I think he is referring to the SIZE of those tires.

there we go

Ha. I know that. I'm just gonna wait til it blows so I have a reason for my wife of why I need new axles.

IMHO, the 37 is a bastard tire. It requires the same running gear, steering, and brakes as 40s but you don't get the benefits of the additional ground clearance and traction.

Your comment seems to indicate that you may be unprepared for what you're going to be up against. Jenns properly setup LJ performed very well on some of the toughest trails in Utah on 35 MTRs and shortarms. It also never received a single scratch

 

[Cascadia]

I'm trying to be properly prepared but it's just one step at a time. I started with a lj with a 6 inch lift on 35s and lockers and a few other things but I'm trying to build it better now. So I've done the long arms and skid and now I'm doing the hi fenders but it'll look weird with only 35's on it. I don't do any hardcore wheeling in this jeep yet cause it's still my daily driver. But I'm trying to get to that point. I know I need to get stronger axles and like I said I am in the process. If anyone knows of a front driver drop 60 for around 600 to 700 pm me and I'll check it out. Any thoughts on the rear 44 I have? Can it handle 37's? I know I might as well swap it out while I am at it cause there are so many of them for so cheap but thoughts?

 

[STAG]

If you aren't opposed to ball-joint axles then here is a good link for ya. Front High-Pinion Drivers Drop D60 for $400. And a matching rear for $250... I'm assuming that by matching rear he means a Ford 10.5 axle which would be plenty beef for 37's+... I wanted to put what Goat said about the 37's bein a bastard size cuz I agree with the reasons he said.

http://www.rockymountainextreme.com/showthread.php?t=73155

 

[STAG]

And I ran a D44 in the front of my old rig w/37's and it was something that I always worried about breaking... weather or not it ever would have, i dunno. but I sold it and my 9" and bought my 1 tons.

 

[GOAT]

Any thoughts on the rear 44 I have? Can it handle 37's?

no

 

[STAG]

Any thoughts on the rear 44 I have? Can it handle 37's?

no

I also forgot to mention that I've been told that I wheel like an "unborn fetus" (I'm not hard on my stuff..) so that could have been a reason why it did work for me.

 

[GOAT]

In my indirect experience through observation, TJ44s cannot handle the stress of 37s. In my direct experience, they struggle on 35s. I have broken multiple lockers, and stock & alloy shafts. Then again I don't wheel like an "unborn fetus" and would never want to wheel a rig that I felt like I had to in order to make it off the trail. That's just me though.

My logic goes like this:

TJ production based axles seem to max out at 35s. Production brakes seem to max out at 35s. Production style steering and boxes seem to max out at 35s. Build a rig that is a complete package optimized to run on 35s, or build a complete package to run on 40s. Not much in between. That logic has worked for me and many others before me that have learned the hard way.

 

[GEEPAHOLIC]

2002 Superduty Dana 60 problem solved

 

[mierdota]

that link of the superduty axles is a heck of a deal i just put a ball joint 60 in the front of my tj i would have rather put a king pin in but i couldnt go wrong for the price i would recomend that. It all depends on how you drive and what you like to do, if you plan on taking it some what easy for now i would do a 37 but if not i wouldnt waste your money. My uncle has a tj and is running 35's and has a dana 35 in the rear and he has only broken a few shafts in a few years, he always has spare shafts with him but he never knows if it will break or not and he definately holds back because of it. If you want to come look at the ball joint 60 in mine feel free

 

[STAG]

2002 Superduty Dana 60 problem solved

I beat ya to it

 

[mierdota]

i know you did thats why i was refering to the link you posted pendejo

 

[Cascadia]

I mostly agree with everything you guys are saying. I know I need 1 tons but it's a money issue as of right now. Also, will I be able to stay legal with full width axles without cutting them down? I've got 4 inch tube flares going on and they barely have enough coverage for the 37's on stock width axles. I know I can do some H1 wheels or some other options but will itbe enough?

 

[GOAT]

I mostly agree with everything you guys are saying. I know I need 1 tons but it's a money issue as of right now. Also, will I be able to stay legal with full width axles without cutting them down? I've got 4 inch tube flares going on and they barely have enough coverage for the 37's on stock width axles. I know I can do some H1 wheels or some other options but will itbe enough?

seems like a lot of work to run a marginal tire.






you're getting in over your head.

 

[Cascadia]

Like I said, you've got to start somewhere. It's not like I have nonstop money coming in for my jeep. I figure I might as well run the 37's that have 90% tread if I have them. I put them up for sale but no one wants them so I might as well run them and not have them sit there.

 

[Cascadia]

Got my rear corners on last week, and I just got my Gen Right relocation brackets for under the hood for the new hi fenders. I also got some of the gen right rocker guards with flares on them as a step. Also, got some led front blinkers for the tube flares and litedot tail lights to replace the bulky stock ones. I got my stock fenders all cut out today and the inner wheel well removed. I got the new tube fenders with 4 inch flares on there and they fit great. Everything lines up perfect. So tomorrow I need to mount the relocation brackets and get the inner wheel wells mounted up to the tube flares and Ill be done with the hard part. After that all I've got to do is mount the new rocker guards and lights and then it'll be off to get a new paint job.

I think my lift is too big. It's only a 4 inch with 2 inch pucks on top of that but with these new hi fenders I have about 12 inches between the top of my tire and the bottom of the flare, with 35's. So with the 37's I'll still have at least 10 inches. What should I do? Take the pucks out?

 

[rholbrook]

Leave the pucks, remove the springs.

 

[redbulltj]

What should I do?

Lower it and run 35s.