Houndoc
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This is one of those threads that I would have to agree has not been overall beneficial. More contention than useful discussion, which is unfortunate.
Coronavirus
- Thread starter Kevin B.
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My bro and I both got our 2nd shots a week ago today. I just got back from a weekend of spotting at Supercrawl late the night before and was EXHAUSTED. I thought for sure the vaccine would be the death of me- like I was setting it up perfectly. I got the shot and had no symptoms, not even a headache. My bro on the other hand who was well-rested and everything had a fever for like 3 days and was pretty much in bed. I was baffled.
Heard the same from lots of people that received the shot at the same time. Thinking half of these shots are placebos
. But Houndoc will call me a crazy conspiracy theorist.I don't know what was in mine but my body certainly didn't appreciate it. Sure it was good for me though
Heard the same from lots of people that received the shot at the same time. Thinking half of these shots are placebos
I don't know what was in mine but my body certainly didn't appreciate it. Sure it was good for me though
I think some people just weren't ready for the 5G upgrade.
UNSTUCK
But stuck more often.
My boss just walked into my office and said the big boss wants to know who all has gotten the vaccine. "Don't worry, I'm not writing down names." I told him I'd prefer not to answer that question. He respected my decision and left.
After a little research I found out that they can legally ask me that. Covid has really changed who has what knowledge in regards to my health.
After a little research I found out that they can legally ask me that. Covid has really changed who has what knowledge in regards to my health.
- Location
- West Jordan
Yep it's crazy what this pandemic allows them to ask and do... My employer is planning on lifting mask restrictions for those employees who have been vaccinated, but leaving the mask mandate for those who have elected not to be vaccinated. It's text-book discrimination at it's finest, but apparently it's OK to do in these circumstances.My boss just walked into my office and said the big boss wants to know who all has gotten the vaccine. "Don't worry, I'm not writing down names." I told him I'd prefer not to answer that question. He respected my decision and left.
After a little research I found out that they can legally ask me that. Covid has really changed who has what knowledge in regards to my health.
We got the same BS
Further, be aware that, though we do not plan to make the vaccine mandatory for any employee, we must implement policies to serve the interests of the company as a whole and all of our colleagues as individuals. Please be mindful when making your personal vaccination decision that whenever federal and state mask mandates are eventually lifted, ********* and ******* will continue to require mask use for an extended period of time for any employee who has not been vaccinated.
And I didnāt bold and italicize that, thatās how it came in the email.
anderson750
I'm working on it Rose
- Location
- Price, Utah
As an employer, I would consult an attorney before I started doing anything like that. I am sure somebody could make a case for discrimination, but there could also be some HIPPA concerns there. There is no mandate to get the vaccine, so there should be no mandate to disclose whether you have received it or not.
Unimog
Eric
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- Stansbury Park, UT
You might be able to make the same HIPPA argument for taking an employees temperature and stuff like that. I'm guessing you wouldn't get too far down that road under current circumstances.
Spork
Tin Foil Hat Equipped
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- Saratoga Springs, UT
Then there is the whole FDA approval thing, is your attorney comfortable with requiring non-FDA approved drugs? If we find out that it causes you to grow a third eye in 5 years and your company required it who's going to get sued?
Tonkaman
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- West Jordan
Maybe you guys missed this article:
www.fox13now.com
Employment lawyer: Utah employers can require employees to get COVID-19 vaccine
Utah leaders are preparing to begin distributing Covid-19 as soon as it becomes available. There is no plan for a statewide Covid-19 vaccine mandate, Utah leaders have emphasized, but that doesnāt mean employers wont require employees to get vaccinated against the virus.
www.fox13now.com
Spork
Tin Foil Hat Equipped
- Location
- Saratoga Springs, UT
I did miss that, however it doesn't change the fact that it isn't FDA approved and if employers start pushing non-FDA approved treatment then the boss's wife can get all the employees in her downline for her essential oils as a requirement of employment...Maybe you guys missed this article:
Employment lawyer: Utah employers can require employees to get COVID-19 vaccine
Utah leaders are preparing to begin distributing Covid-19 as soon as it becomes available. There is no plan for a statewide Covid-19 vaccine mandate, Utah leaders have emphasized, but that doesnāt mean employers wont require employees to get vaccinated against the virus.
The mask mandate ends today. It puts a lot of businesses in a tough spot. If we require masks, we know the pain of that discussion only gets worse. If we don't, then people will bitch how we aren't protecting our customers and employees. It's as close to lose lose as you can get.
For employees, I could require them, but I don't feel Iike that's my place to do so (my employees likely will wear them on their own anyway). But if they don't have a mask, then it'll be bad review city from the cancel culture kids.
Preeetttyy lame rock and hard place to be stuck in.
For employees, I could require them, but I don't feel Iike that's my place to do so (my employees likely will wear them on their own anyway). But if they don't have a mask, then it'll be bad review city from the cancel culture kids.
Preeetttyy lame rock and hard place to be stuck in.
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- Never Far From Nowhere
All the vaccines currently being distributed in the US have received FDA Emeregency Use Authorizations.
UNSTUCK
But stuck more often.
I understand there is a big difference between "FDA approved" (usually a two year process of testing and whatnot) and emergency use authorization. "Given the situation we're going to go ahead and allow this and cross our fingers it all works out".
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- Never Far From Nowhere
Obviously, but from a legal standpoint the FDA has given the greenlight for these vaccines to be used.
- Location
- West Haven, UT
The "experimental" status relieves insurance from covering any consequences
ID Bronco
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- Idaho Falls, ID
Headline today talked about the administration, "targeting areas of resistance" to the vaccine. Usually that word has strong meaning, I believe we can expect the strongest meaning behind it here too.
So if you are choosing not to take the vaccine you are part of the Resistance. Interesting, it's probably nothing.
So if you are choosing not to take the vaccine you are part of the Resistance. Interesting, it's probably nothing.
Indeed and the vaccine propaganda is certainly getting more prevalent. Next thing you know people will be running around in old vans offering free ice cream with vaccine.
Biden says he intends to have 70% of the population immunized by July. Vaccine demand has severely tapered off. Guess he just doesnāt realize probably fewer than 70% of the population wants to be vaccinated. My guess to keep this goal weāll see more fed restrictions on non-vaccinated persons. Might start feeling like another form of government
Spork
Tin Foil Hat Equipped
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- Saratoga Springs, UT
Holding out for Blackberry revel and $4000 stimulus before I get vaccinated.